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[edit] Expansion Tag
Reading the article, I have decided to add the expansion tag due to the main problems of no information about Ailes work at America's Talking, CNBC, not to mention no inclusion of a controversies section and the overall need of possibly more information in this article | Chris 02:22, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
The man who singlehandedly got Bush II elected in 2000, bringing about tax cuts for the rich, the war in Iraq and the deaths of 2000 and climbing American Soldiers and a national debt that will cripple the nations economy in the decades to come. Who needs the Supereme Court when we have FOX News and Roger Ailes. I hope this gets what he deserves in the Christian afterlife that he so feverently hopes to have the rest of forced to believe in.
Thanks for the opportunity to vent my utter disgust with the racist, homophobic, unenlightened, christian convservative trash that poses as fair and balanced news on the network this twisted rat- runs.
By the way, when Roger Ailes drinks water can Sean Hannity speak?
David Watson 9/14/05
Certainly disgusting and inappropriate commentary. If you want to start a website or blog to spread your filth, then do it. Otherwise stop ranting here. Wikipedia is supposed to be factual and honest. If something is going to be displayed it must be cited. You cannot site the nickname you placed here.
Furthermore "criticisms" sections are increasingly suspect. This notion of some say.... and people claim... are just convenient excuses to slip personal opinion into the article. MiKellie 01:17, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
I agree. Totally uncalled for in this forum. Steve Blandsmyth
relax buddy
I couldn't disagree more about the inclusion of a "criticisms" section. This is a controversial figure, one who has, depending on your opinion, freed conservatives from the "liberal media" or cynically dumbed-down media for both financial and partisan ends. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.137.234.129 (talk • contribs) 10:57, 22 January 2006
- I agree, and the article could stand a lot of expansion in general. Morgan Wick 04:44, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] The whitewashing of this page is over
Republican weasels have deliberately trimmed this biography to nothing in order to keep information off it that they don't like. Namely, that Ailes was the campaign coordinator for George H. W. Bush and was the one who perfected the Willie Horton ads. That is going in.
[edit] I'm all part of it
As part of the vast Right Wing Conspiracy and a dastardly conservative I was part of this white washing whoo hah ha!! Lets not kid ourselves here nothing Roger Ailes did was a criminal act or is not now public knowledge. Its called politics and both parities are guilty of the same things. I think conservatives have better things to do then cover up for Ailes on a Wikipedia article when such info is already available all over the net if however blown out of proportion for political gain. Ailes is not and never has been an elected official so in the grand political scheme trashing him won’t make a lot of difference. I don't think most Americans even remeber Willie Horton and I think the incident has been confined to the Valary Plane trash heap of History.--Ian 01:52, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Comment from HenryFrancis: I worked for Roger Ailes during the 1988 campaign. He was the lead media strategiest for the campaign, not the overall campaign strategiest. That was Lee Atwater. While the campaign talked about Willie Horton, which we had read about in articles that won a local paper a Pulitzer Prize, being based in NY, we were also familiar with the Gore campaign using Horton in their telephone calls aimed at NY Democratic voters in the primary.
That said, Roger and the campaign had nothing at all to do with the Horton spot, which was produced by Larry McCarthy and run as an indpendent expenditure. Larry had previously worked for Ailes, as had many GOP consultants in a relatively small profession. In fact, the rules against any "direction" of an independent expenditure are so tight that had the Bush campaign called them up and asked them to stop playing the ad, that would have been a violation of the law.
Several newspapers had written that the campaign or Ailes produced the ad, and all have since published corrections. We did produce the revolving door spot (see Willie Horton) which dealt with the issue, while making the prisoners overwhelmingly white to avoid any specious charges of racism.
[edit] Revising
Ive done some major revising on this page. I added a new section and tommorrow I will add the links and stuff. Im just wiped out, I do to much editing and revising. --Zonerocks 07:24, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
Wikiproject for biography is trying to take credit for this article? What a joke. I think iglli and I have done to most work in keeping this article in one piece. --Zonerocks 07:01, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Controversy Section
Could someone explain what the controversy was?
On March 9, 2007 the Nevada State Democratic Party [4] cancelled their August, 2007 presidential debate to be hosted by Fox News. Fox News vice president David Rhodes responded to the cancellation by saying that the Nevada Democratic caucus is controlled by MoveOn.org.[5] In the same speech, Ailes said: <quote>
In that section, there were no claims Ailes did something controversial. Rhodes' comment, maybe, the Nevada State Democratic Party, maybe.
The citation on his quote was to a transcript.
The controversy wasn't mention in the Wikipedia article, it was in the CNN one. According to the Nevada Dems, "a comment by Ailes during a Thursday night speech to a group of radio and television news directors indicated the network was biased against their party."
Ok- looks like I have to fix this.
171.71.37.103 18:11, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
