Talk:Rogan josh
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I removed the reference to the horse called Rogan Josh because this page is about the dish. If details of the horse warrant an article, the standard place to put it is in its own article, eg. Rogan Josh (horse), and then put a disambiguation tag on this page. Remy B 05:41, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
'Roghan' (روغن)means 'oil' in Persian and Urdu, and that seems a more likely origin for the first part of the name, given that red in Hindi & Urdu is 'Lal', and in Persian 'surkh' or 'qermez'. Sikandarji 08:04, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
......The rogan part alludes to the fat that features in the final dish, this is fat rendered from the lamb (actually goat or chimaera). Josh alludes to warming, as the spices used are said to have a 'warming effect' though this is spiritual rather than corporal. The dish can be made with onions/garlic or without when it is substituted with asafoetida instead, depending on religion of cooks and/or consumers. It has no tomato or fruit, just meat, yoghurt and spices, which include fennel seed (not aniseed which is not common in India) and dry ginger rather than fresh root ginger. It contains Kashmiri chillies, the true variety is medium hot, unlike the 'so-called Kashmiri chillies' which are non-pungent and wrinkled, these are grown in Karnataka and known as Byadgi chillies. Nearly all so-called Kashmiri chillies are of this type. .....Waaza 26 Jan 2007
Madhur Jaffrey's recipe and many others found on the internet omit the tomatoes. Google searches for "rogan josh tomato" and "rogan josh -tomato" suggest that tomatoes are not often included (27k vs 393k hits). Does anyone know what the story is on this? (Jaffrey's recipe is quite tasty, btw, although she tends to tone down the heat.) Steve Dunham 00:21, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Move to wikibooks cookbooks
the Recipe is more likely preferred on http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cookbook and a link to it from here —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.90.101.99 (talk) 09:56, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
I suggest tomatoes are not part of this dish as these vegetables are seasonal in Kashmir, and only available in season. I also suggest fresh root ginger is not typical, for basically the same reason. Dried ginger and fennel powder are typical ingredients in Kashmiri cooking. Waaza 02 08 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.151.5.39 (talk) 00:21, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] tomatoes
I second the fact that tomatoes aren't generally part of the recipe. I'll see if I can lay my hands on my fam's version later. I think that when we make lamb using tomatoes, it's usually called tomater meat. Also, I'm not sure what the wiki-policy is about including recipes with articles about dishes (and I'm not about to look it up right now), but I bet the suggestion about moving it to wikibooks is the right idea. Hopefully I'll find some time to put some work in on this soon. — gogobera (talk) 05:51, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
