Talk:Robinson Jeffers

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[edit] Request to reword first paragraph

I don't have any ideas right now, but I think the first paragraph should be reworded. That first paragraph should concisely sum up Jeffers accomplishments and style, if this is possible. I don' t feel like it is very informative as it is. Is it really important that Jeffers traveled extensively in his youth? I mean he didn't exactly hitchhike across the world or anything. He lived in Europe and Washington State. That was it. It isn't really an accomplishment. The part about Carmel should stay, but I think something needs to be formulated that describes his poetry without being too banal. In other words not calling him an "inhumanist" or "environmentalist", i.e. something a little more expansive and expressive but still NPOV.

--Wrong: Jeffers' travels were extensive. Read Jim Karman's book Robinson Jeffers Poet of California. Also, he himself coined the term "Inhumanism." Jeffers was most certainly an environmentalist. Do a bit of homework.


- Dear "Wrong:", I've been trying to figure out how to address your comment for the last few days, as I was really taken aback by it. I wrote the above suggestion a few months ago, but I forgot to sign. Your comment was actually very hurtful to me, because I began the major changes that led to what the Jeffers page being what it is today. Before I was a registered user, I fleshed out the entire article from a small stub from IP location 134.69.138.42 (you can see the work I put into it in the "history" section). I did this from the many Jeffers' biographies I have read, including the book by Jim Karman, who, incidentally, I admire immensely and who I met and talked with at the Jeffers'Festival in Monterey last year. I did all of this work, and it was a lot of work, because I thought Jeffers needed fair representation on this public information source. My original suggestion was simply meant to encourage others to help to put together an introduction that didn't widdle Jeffers' life and work down to the label "inhumanist" or "environmentalist," as he often is in short bios. Really, all I ask is that you have more tact in how you respond to suggestions in the future, oh yeah, and please sign in your comments in the future as well.Asedzie 12:15, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] This para lifted from Dict. Nat'l Bio

This paragraph appears in American National Biography 1999 Oxford Univ. Press.

Deleting and adding bare facts back to temporarily fill deletion.

Una fell ill with cancer and died in 1950. She had played many roles for him: lover, wife, muse, protectress, and his ears and eyes on the social world he shunned. Jeffers's last volume, Hungerfield and Other Poems (1954), contains a moving eulogy to Una, who for him may have come closest to embodying Inhumanism, his philosophy that the non-human was more important than the human in the cosmos. Jeffers died in Carmel, California; a posthumous collection, The Beginning and the End and Other Poems, appeared in 1963.

Caltrop 12:59, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Very nice Caltrop. Excellent catch. Asedzie 11:19, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 17:49, 2 January 2008 (UTC)