Talk:Roberto Carlos (footballer)

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[edit] Killed someone?

"His most famous free kick happened during the 2004-2005 season for Real Madrid, where his free kick hit another player who was in the wall straight into the face and subsequently killed him. The free kick was named the killer cannon after this incident."

Is this confirmed? I couldn't find anything on it. Willowwhisp1989 21:37, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

It's false. Spooki 19:04, 2 Apr 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.32.54.77 (talk)

[edit] About citizenship and nationality

I think citizenship and nationality are not the same thing. So I think that the phrase "received Spanish citizenship but maintained his Brazilian nationality as well" has to be modified.

[edit] Roberto Carlos vs. Roberto Carlos da Silva

Why is this page titled "Roberto Carlos da Silva" rather than "Roberto Carlos" like the majority of brazilian pages? Certainly he's MUCH more known as simply "Roberto Carlos." Any reason? Batman2005 18:36, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

  • Because it's his name. And we do not follow the absurdly childish and affected Brazilian practice of using one name, nicknames or shortened names. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.25.106.209 (talk • contribs)
Um...well you're wrong, see Ronaldinho, Romario, Ronaldo, Kaka, Pele, Ricardinho, Robinho, Cicinho, Lúcio, Sócrates, Rivaldo, Gerson, Rivelino, Bebeto, Edmundo, etc. Anymore dumb comments? Ok good, now is there someone who knows the real reason why he's listed under "Roberto Carlos da Silva? Batman2005 14:16, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
Well, one simple reason is because there is another very, very notable Roberto Carlos that has been a star for decades and was famous before R.C. Da Silva was even born. - ChaChaFut 16:25, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
Then we should call it Roberto Carlos (footballer) or something like that...the Roberto Carlos's page you refer is titled Roberto Carlos (singer)...--Udonknome 20:05, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Picture

That's a pretty ridiculous picture of Carlos...can we change it?


True, unfortunately it seems that the photographer appeared to have attempted for a flawless photo of Roberto Carlos but failed, and yes it should be changed

Love the picture...kinda looks like he's shrugging, probably after scoring an amazing free kick (yes, I realize he is still wearing a warm-up jacket, but you get the point). Jairuscobb 19:21, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Those free kicks

What is the ratio of free kicks taken/free kicks scored for Carlos? It's very poor I'm sure. He has been living off the fame of one free kick for years. A well-known British tv commentator recently said (on air during a Brazil World Cup match) that since "that" goal he had seen dozens of Carlos free kicks, for club and country, and had yet to see him score a goal, commenting that if they forgot about one lucky goal a decade ago and let the much more talented and effective free-kicker Juninho takes the kicks they'd score twice as many goals every match (also clearly a thinly-veiled attack on the number of free kicks awarded to Brazil). If this article is going to wax lyrical about one lucky goal many years ago it should mention the fact that his reputation on this basis is not entirely deserved, given his efficacy since, otherwise this article is eulogy and not factually encyclopaedic. PS It was a lucky goal: he is said to practice such free kicks for hours a week and yet has never scored another one like it in ten years. Fluke caused by the ball, not the kicker. 86.17.246.75 11:49, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Go find a message board if you want to thrown your opinions around. If you can substantiate any of that with soures that fit WP:CITE then include it, otherwise, we can't. Additionally, visit www.youtube.com and type in "Roberto Carlo Free Kicks" and you'll get dozens of videos of him scoring free kicks. Batman2005 14:18, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Roberto Carlos is one of the greatest footballers. Negative comments will come out about all players, and all players have made mistakes...but usually negatives come along with positives. And there are not enough positive comments to talk about Roberto Carlos, even if he is overshadowed by goal scoring Brazilian players. Roberto Carlos may have costed Brazil on a goal, but, he has saved Brazilian football from many losses because of his "never give up, never die" playing style. What a talent. Real Madrid will miss him if he deceides to transfer. One proof of his quality is, how he has been with Real Madrid for over a Decade.

[edit] ONE LAST WORLD CUP

Why does Roberto Carlos not play in one more World Cup. We want to see him in South Africa in 2010. He can do it!

He has prooved to be a star player and should have enough stamina to show his stuff to us in South Africa. We love his soccer skills and were looking forward to see him down here.

If Zidane could play till his late thirtys then so can Carlos.

Roberto Carlos a suberp player, who in retrospect is even a greater player than the world famous Ronaldo.


This isn't a message board, go find one of those and post your opinions there. Batman2005 00:38, 14 July 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Article should be extended

Considering RC is one of the World's greatest ever footballers and probably one of the most famous, there is very little info about the clubs he has played for, what he has done etc.

Agreed. World Champion, Over 600 official matches for Real Madrid, two-time Champions League winner... I have reorganized the sections, tagged the article, and placed a request for expansion. I'll give it a couple of weeks, and if no real improvements are made, I'll tackle it myself. --ChaChaFut 06:38, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Did he really kill someone with a free-kick? Sounds a little bit too dramatic... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 130.236.67.33 (talk) 16:35, 6 December 2006 (UTC).
Where did you hear that? ChaChaFut 05:34, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Statistics

I think Roberto Carlos is a great player, and the article is poor, so I expanded it. Now it looks better (with the statistics), doesnt' it? Bye! -- Xavier Martín 17.43, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What on earth does this mean......?

"He was a member of Brazil's team Emmanuel the 1996 Summer Olympics" - huh? ChrisTheDude 14:32, 28 June 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Position

Shoudn't Roberto Carlos be considered as a Wingback rather than a Fullback? I mean, if he is not considered one, then who is? --Udonknome 20:25, 21 October 2007 (UTC)


He never played as a wingback for Real Madrid, always as a full back. The only times I recall him playing as a wingback was at Brazil when they used a 3-5-2. --Spooki 19:09, 2 Apr 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Number of Goals

The number of goals is wrong, but there is an hidden advice <!--Please enter only league appearances and goals here - don't include cup and Champions League data!-->, and I couldn´t find wich goals and games are for league or not. For example, the number of games and goals that he plays and scores for Palmeiras is exactly the numbers of União São João[1]. Even in his site, he informs that he scores 12 goals for the National Brazilian Team and here we have 24 (the FIFA link [2] used as reference is broken and I only could find this [3]). Is he hiding his own goals??? I propose to use the goals and games he informs in his site, as he´s not a beginner looking for promotion. Any sugestions? (Caiaffa (talk) 06:41, 11 May 2008 (UTC))

Yes, the goals amount does look a bit farfetched. But, I don't have any sources to find out such information. I'll see if I can find any.rokkafellah (talk) 02:13, 16 May 2008 (UTC)