Talk:Robert Monroe
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Now wouldn't it be neat with a page on the man himself?
- Why don't you start writing some of it? --Slac 23:24, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Bias, POV statement
I have removed the following statement "Incidentally in his later work he came to the conclusion that there is no such thing as being "out of body." Nonetheless, he is considered a pioneer by many who study astral projection." This statement gives the impression that Monroe somehow denounced his out of body experiences. This is not the case, he did in fact come to the conclusion that all things are one, and therefore there is no real separation. This would be a similar position to a Buddhist who has transcended the concept of duality or separateness. This kind of belief is far from him deciding there is no such thing as was previously stated. I hope that clarifies things. - Solar 17:29, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Bias, POV statement
Regarding Monroe's conclusion that astral projection does not entail one leaving their body, this was more to do with the development of the Phasing view of consciousness. In short, one does not leave their body but 'phases' to another point of awareness. Perception of reality is generated and experienced internally (by the Brain) and so to move out of body would actually be impossible. It’s only ones focus (viewpoint) which changes. According to the phasing viewpoint, all experience, reality, and the astral planes exist at certain focus levels. One simply has to phase (change focus) to experience these different locales.
misterjingo 23:09, 07 December 2005 (GMT)
[edit] psychic researcher, POV statement
Please provide links or evidence that Monroe did indeed carry out 'psychic research'. In a few instances he did aid Charles Tart in a series of inconclusive experiments, but in such, he was a subject rather than an investigator or researcher. The term ‘psychic researcher’ is ambiguous at best, and at worst has been distorted by popular culture. I think it reduces Monroe’s credentials somewhat, implying that he spent his time looking at mediums (he didn’t), or any other of the pychometry, levitation, mind reading etc which have been grouped under the term psychic. His life’s work was based around the mapping of consciousness, not the research of psychic phenomenon (as popular culture now defines it); he was very much a man of empirical science, the Monroe institute still releasing research papers to this day.
Please provide even a single link where Monroe reports to being a psychic investigator, and i'll be happy to leave it.
MisterJingo 20:03, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- We might be able to find a better term, without making him out to be a loony. What we have here is a narrow interpretation of "researcher." Anyone who, without making a-priori assumptions but following the scientific method, explores the mind or psychic functioning is a researcher. Monroe recorded his experiments in books, and from what I've read, he did a great ammount of research into helping people achieve psychic states- the "levels" he talks about. This was research, both in exploring the psychic abilities and realms, and in finding out how to get people to achieve those states. So I think the term applies- both in the traditional sense, and in the sense of research with himself as a subject. We might be able to word it better. I can cite his books or the Monroe Institute papers/research, as described in those books.
- Please put all new content at the bottom of the page. –––Martinphi (Talk Ψ Contribs) 20:25, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
