Talk:River Crake

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To those (like myself) that don't know the ins and outs of the Real Lancashire movement, the article seemed to imply that the historical county of Lancashire was the administrative county of Cumbria. I put Cumbria first as the location, as political geography tends to come before cultural and historical. I added the historic location at the end of the paragraph, provocatively using the past tense as I believe the significance of historic counties is diminishing, inspite of the Royal Mail.

The historic county still exists. As with all traditional/historic counties it was not abolished in 1974, so the use of the past tense is wrong. As it stood, the article stated the correct position; where is the Crake? It's in the historic county of Lancashire and the administrative county of Cumbria. Administrative areas are subject to change. Indeed, it is quite possible that Cumbria will be abolished as an administrative entity in the future. The historic counties are, however, fixed. Arcturus 18:28, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

I agree with all you say. I'll change the was to is. I was being provocative. The original wording, read by someone with some knowledge of historic counties (I live in Leicestershire which included then didn't include Rutland, my father was born in Cumberland), seemed to say the historic county of Lancashire was the administrative county of Cumbria, by the placing of one after the other in brackets. I also insist current political geography should come first inspite of it changing with time. An atlas that gives Yugoslavia is obsolete. The historic counties were once also political entities. They should be given, as they are still current entities, but after the political.