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To be added to the article, if a consensus can be developed:

She is noted as one of the first Hispanic actresses to achieve mainstream success in major Hollywood roles.

See also Talk:Jennifer Lopez. 209.149.235.254 21:57, 24 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Her ethnicity has been over looked over the years I have edited the article to reflect this known fact Toby Dolores Del Rio and Ramon Navarro were two Hispanic stars that preceded Hayworth. Also,Barbara Leaming's biography of Orson Welles quotes him as saying Eduardo Cansino's family were gyspies from Spain.

I'm somewhat surprised to see a claim that she was "one of the first" Hispanic actresses etc.; there were quite a number of Hispanic actors and actresses who were quite successful: Lupe Velez (the "Mexican Spitfire"), Dolores del Rio (mentioned above), Desi Arnaz, Ramon Novarro, and many others I can't think of just now. 66.108.4.183 14:53, 17 September 2006 (UTC) Allen Roth

[edit] Famous for Being Spanish

While Del Rio and Navarro did precede Hayworth, nevertheless Rita's Spanish roots (from Spain, as you note though, not from Mexico or Latin America) were very well known by moviegoers of the day. There was no secretecy. Her parents were a famous vaudeville act, The Dancing Casinos.

Also, Spanish != Mexican. If her mother was anglo and her father is spanish, how did she become Mexican? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.167.248.233 (talk) 01:51, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Gay Icon Project

In my effort to merge the now-deleted list from the article Gay icon to the Gay icons category, I have added this page to the category. I engaged in this effort as a "human script", adding everyone from the list to the category, bypassing the fact-checking stage. That is what I am relying on you to do. Please check the article Gay icon and make a judgment as to whether this person or group fits the category. By distributing this task from the regular editors of one article to the regular editors of several articles, I believe that the task of fact-checking this information can be expedited. Thank you very much. Philwelch 20:48, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

In reply: I am sorry, but I just don't think it's truly worth it unless information regarding, e.g, what kind of relationship she had with now out actor Tab Hunter (co-star from They Came To Cordura) or her make-up artist even (and that's even if he was gay at all). Are there any more concrete connections besides "she was glamorous" because I find such lazy criteria to be patronising to say the least.

Her grandson is a pretty concrete connection. He's gay. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Andxf23 (talk • contribs) 04:36, 15 May 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Roma (Gypsy) Heritage Paragraph

I have moved the following text, in entirety from the article to this page because it broke the flow of the article. I believe the simple link will suffice. " Gypsies originated in northern India, and migrated to many parts of the Middle east (Iran, Egypt, Lebanon, Central Asia, Turkey, etc.) and all over Europe (mostly Spain, Romania, Italy, France, Germany, eastern Europe, Greece, etc etc) during middle ages (1100-1600AD, and even into the late 1800s. Scholars claim they left due to persecution by the invading Muslims of the Middle East. Many other famous people claim to be of Gypsy ancestry. See Roma people, List of Roma people" If someone feels strongly that it belongs in the text, I would disagree, but not be too broken up about it if reverted. Istvan 21:34, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] picture

there sahould be a pic of her from when she was a hottie, not an old bag og bones.

If you can find a freely-licensed photo of her when she was younger, by all means add it. —Chowbok 21:05, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Bag of bones? Or indeed bag og bones? Come on, Hayworth still looks fantastic in that pic! Anyway, I agree that a photo of her at the peak of her career would be more helpful, but as Chowbok says there may be licensing issues. Meanwhile, I've done a copyedit and style edit of the article, with a bit of NPOV, but more still needs to be done, I think. -- TinaSparkle 13:58, 21 November 2006 (UTC)


She is amazingly beautiful in that pic of her in 1977... we should all look that good at any age!

If you want a better pic of her during her career to post here, just contact the public relations people at the studio who owns the movies from the era you want a pic, they have licensed pics for advertisement and ... well.. not to be crass, but this site does raise profiles and that generates sales of dvd sets. Although, my humble vote, is that pic of her should stay. A pretty girl is an accident, a beautiful woman is an achievement... MC —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.200.99.157 (talk) 21:24, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] top sex symbol of 1940s

great job of writing on this article. bear in mind most film historians and fans credit rita as the number one sex symbol to emerge from the 1940s. that is still her legacy in film history. even her singular nickname "the love goddess", given to her at that time, points towards that. marcco09

[edit] Innacuracy with Ali Khan's title

Ali Khan -was- Aga Khan III, not "heir to" as listed before. --Aeranis 04:42, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Ali Khan was skipped in the succession. He never became The Aga Khan. He was, in fact, only the "heir to" and "father of" an Aga Khan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.105.150.19 (talk) 10:54, 13 October 2007 (UTC)


Rita Hayworth was not the first American women to marry into a royal family. The Aga Khan's aren't even a royal family.

The first American women to marry into a royal family was Alice Heine of New Orleans in 1889 who became HSH The Princess of Monaco after her marriage to Albert I. 76.105.150.19 02:20, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Photos

Hi there can SOMEONE FIND an early picture of Rita hayworth as "Rita cansino"!!....about 1935-ish, before she transformed herself ,by dying her hair etc......she looks more beautiful and natural, and younger obviously....anyone try find a free one somewhere....then upload on wiki commons..

[edit] James Hill

Hill is described as a film director, but IMDB lists no directing credits - those he has are mainly producing. Anyone have evidence of him being a director ? -- Beardo 01:45, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Related to Ginger Rogers

Quote - While not related by blood, Hayworth and Ginger Rogers did share an aunt and uncle by marriage.

Seems to me that they must have been cousins, and therefore related by blood. Or, this uncited fact is not actually a fact. We can't have it both ways. -- JackofOz 07:32, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sexual Abuse By Father

I originally included this info (along with reference), and it was removed. I think it is important to include - gives insight into her early life. Any comments on why it should not be included? Gwyka 14:55, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

This keeps getting removed - finally with a comment that is eminate's from the "unreliable" Leaming bio. How is this bio unreliable? The reviews of it that's I've found mention "meticulous research". 165.189.169.190 (talk) 20:35, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Well, Publisher's Weekly review is available on Amazon for you to read: "Yet aside from interviews with Welles, the book is based on secondary sources and information furnished by Hayworth's secretary, publicist, studio hairdresser and makeup man." That sums it up nicely from what I can see in many similar mentions around the 'net, as far as the Times. The article currently mentions the book and it's claims. That section might require expansion (it used to be slightly longer), but that's the right place to put it. Maury (talk) 01:38, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Real singer's name in "Mame" should be mentioned

Hello, since "Put the Blame on Mame" is such a famous song, perhaps the name of the real singer of that recording (Anita Ellis) should be mentioned. Another interesting thread might be the guy who wrote the lyrics. Sorry I don't have the second name on hand but it was very interesting to read about him when someone brought him to my attention. The song was originally a poem, and some decades old when Rita danced to it. The poet was well known in his day. It might be best to have another page just about that song's history. I can assure that's it's well worth the trouble. BobHelms (talk) 23:43, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Children?

it mentions a daughter in the fund raising, but nowhere do i see a list of kids (and with which husband/father)... anyone want to add that? thanks, MC —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.200.99.157 (talk) 21:16, 25 March 2008 (UTC)