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It seems to me that this article, given its length and content, might best be merged into Thomas Paine. -- Viajero 16:22, 1 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Not so sure. Certain parts, yes, particularly the portion where the prosecution is discussed. Sunspeck 06:08, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Is this the same document as Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen? They seem very similar.—Rory ☺ 20:00, Aug 28, 2004 (UTC)

No, but there is a definite link: Thomas Paine's earlier work (e.g., Common Sense) -> Declaration of Independence -> Declaration of the Rights of Man -> Paine's Rights of Man. thejabberwock 23:11, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Title

I see this article was recently moved from Rights of Man to The Rights of Man. Although both appear on the Web, the former is correct. The Library of America edition of Paine's works, edited by Paine biographer Eric Foner, uses Rights of Man consistently, as does the biography Thomas Paine: Apostle of Freedom, by Jack Fruchtman. See also here for an early title page. Tim Smith 02:34, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

I will check Foner's original edition. Septentrionalis 04:07, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
Concedo. I did not see it on the web, but after checking Foner, Moncure Conway, and the collected edition of 1835, I wonder which reputable printed source I am thinking of. Septentrionalis 18:36, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup

I made a first pass at an attempted clean up. It is still clunky, so I won't remove the tag, but it seems a bit more coherent to me. Others should review. Sunspeck 06:08, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

I've done some cleaning, i've moved some stuff around to give it a better flow, but I think it could still use some work. I've done my best at spelling, but I do miss things, so that's likely to be prevailant. Tiny.ian 21:06, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
I also added some stuff to See Also. They're not exactly what I want to see, but give the general idea in relation to the article. I'm kinda ill today so my thought processes keep disapearing.Tiny.ian 21:52, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

I deleted the United States Declaration of Independence section. It was written 15 years prior and influenced Paine, not the other way around.Taishaku 23:03, 13 December 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.232.127.111 (talk)

[edit] inchoate

Can we use another word or phrase for this? Inchoate might be a good legal term, but the average reader is going to have to pull out a dictionary to know what it means. --Lendorien 18:14, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

  • Lack or a response has inspired me to take care of it. --Lendorien 19:19, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The song of the same name

Was anyone else looking for the traditional song? I can play it, but I'm not sure that'll work here.

[edit] Controversy?

How is it 'controversial' that he considered the poor of a preindustral nation miserable? One might disagree with this evaluation, but it hardly constitutes a controversy. Anyone with an actual exposure to poverty would likely share the sentiment, and subsistence farming under an aristocracy, or working for hire on a day basis was definitely worse in such times. --CRATYLUS22

[edit] Inconsistent with article on "Reflections on the Revolution in France"

I am inexpert on both the Rights of Men and Reflections on the Revolution in France, however having read both articles I suspect, though I do not know, that Edmund Burke's position is being caricatured in this article. Could someone with a better understanding of both reconcile the two articles? Thanks. 70.5.197.51 (talk) 16:55, 25 February 2008 (UTC)GMM

[edit] Sourcing

Such an important article needs sourcing. --Lendorien (talk) 16:39, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Reordered

I reordered it a bit take a look, I think its better now. Still needs clean up? Maddra (talk) 14:31, 13 March 2008 (UTC)