Talk:Right to exist
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[edit] Failed AFD
See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Right to exist (2nd nomination). Johnleemk | Talk 10:00, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Arguments in favour or against Israel
This article is about the phrase "Right to exist" and its use in Israeli political discourse and not a critique of Zionism, so anything discussing the question whether Israel should exist should not be here. Pilatus 10:45, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
Ok, so you say the article is about the term "right to exist", and not whether or not Israel should exist,ie, the article is only concerned with the term itself, right?
So,then, what's been put here so far is presumably an explication of the term, what someone in favor of the term thinks it means, and why it should be used (and not an argument for or against Israel).
With that in mind, I think it would be in the spirit of the article if I added a Chomsky quote that criticized the term itself and why some believe it ought not to be used, but which would not be a criticism of Israel itself, anymore than the original segement is an apology for Israel. So I'm going to go ahead and add that quote, unless there's a compelling reason why I shouldn't.--Filippo Argenti 17:07, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] NPOV
The language in this article doesn't seem completely npov. Specifically, I'm refering to "the other expression forming a mask for Anti-Semitism, a disdain to see any form of progress by those of Jewish origin." Is this even true? There's no citation, and this statement is asserting a pretty bold motivation on people. I'm not entirely sure if this is correct, this certainly doesn't appear to be the proper presentation of these ideas.
Also "Right to Exist" is a pretty generic term. This article should be renamed "Israel's Right to Exist." I have would argue that pretty much every nation has a right to exist, but this article doesn't refer to any other. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.5.146.221 (talk) 06:11, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
I've editted it. I was simply referring to 'raw' anti-semitism and general hatred of Jews, some are motivated by that in this topic, although a small minority in my experience.
Right to Exist: Ask ten people who are politically aware what this refers to, 10 of them will say Israel. Yes it's general but in reality, specific. Not the best terminology, but just one of those things, it is because it is. LegendaryHammy (talk) 15:12, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
