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[edit] Holy Land Foundation Issue

Regarding the text "A charitable trust called the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development, which was based in Richardson, was shut down in 2001, as it was accused of funding Hamas."

I remember when this happened, and I remember it in the news, so it is a "historical event" that happened in Richardson. However, user "38.104.34.70" or "74.202.44.40" -- if you want this event to remain in this article, please provide a citation (newspaper or magazine article reference, etc) and/or sign up for an actual Wikipedia account for some kind of credibility, otherwise, I fully support DrewLB20's removal. Thanks... --nathanbeach 20:41, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Then why remove it? Instead mark it "Citation needed." A citation wil be added in due time. Why not remove the issue about "Jeremy for the same reason? Why the hypocrisy?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.175.73.68 (talk) 17:44, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Again... Citation needed has been added and a reference will be added in due time. An internationally known event and an event which garnered national press coverage at the subsequent trial should not be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.104.34.70 (talk) 14:36, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

The citation looks fine. I moved it to the "History" section and got rid of the "Richardson In The News" section (always thought that was a little awkward). I also moved a paragraph from the History section to the Demographics section. So, we now actually have some interesting information in Demographics, unlike 99.9% of the other small town pages on wikipedia... --nathanbeach 16:29, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Famous Folks

If you are going to add someone to the Famous Richardsonians list, please alphabetize them and follow the capitalization standard for what they are (e.g. "actor" vs. "Actor"). Nathan Beach 17:03, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Frank Ticheli

Got confirmation by email to USC address that Frank Ticheli is from Richardson:

Yes, I went to Berkner H.S., played in the high school band under Bob
Floyd, and graduated in 1976. There is an extensive bio. on me coming
out this month in the book: A Composer's Insight, Vol. 4, published
by Meredith Music.
Best,
Frank Ticheli (frankticheli.com)

[edit] Others

Hello -- I just removed several people, probably added by themselves, from the Notable Richardsonians list. I couldn't find any significant reference to them by using Google, besides the fact that they don't have any representation at Wikipedia. This list should probably be limited to famous people that already are in Wikipedia (i.e., have passed the WP:BIO policy. I think "Kenny Tran" in the list may be borderline. He seems actually to be an import racer (from searching I did), but I don't know how notable he is. Anyone have any comments? --nathanbeach 15:16, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm removing "Kenny Tran" -- no one has responded about his notability and I can't really find anything on him via Google (besides the fact that he's not in Wikipedia yet). When he's significant enough to be added to Wikipedia, we can add him back here. --nathanbeach 15:22, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Andrea Crofts

Just removed "Andrea Crofts" from the Notables list, probably added by herself or a friend. As far as I can tell, it's this person: Andrea Crofts. There seem to be no other significant hits in google for anyone with that name, and certainly no-one else from Texas. --nathanbeach 15:19, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Images of Richardson

I've added an image gallery so that there aren't so many images inlined with the article (it was causing some formatting problems, too). Please add any significant pictures of Richardson (preferably that you've taken yourself) by uploading them to the Commons and adding them to the page (see the Upload File link in the toolbox to the left)! Nathan Beach 17:03, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Source Citations

Because I'm a total dork, I'm going to the Richardson Public Library to start getting source citations for the history section. I kind of threw it together a while back from a page on cor.net as well as just stuff I know from reading about Richardson history. Anyways, please start citing any sources you have for the other sections, too... Nathan Beach 17:07, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Berkner violence

The paragraph about the murder's of Berkner High students is also in the article about Berkner High School. It's redundant to have it here. Also, there have been other murders in the history of Richardson, but I don't think any encylopedia article about a city needs to include a list of all of the city's murder victims, unless the murder happens to also be a significant historical event. - Chfowler 06:23, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

  • Richardson had one murder in 2003, so it doesn't get many. Losing three students in three weeks was a big deal -- it inspired a protest march of 600 people, one student appeared in a gun control ad, and there was a lot of media coverage of the "violence comes to the burbs" variety. Rcade 12:53, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
    • Then expand the article to explain the significance of the event. I still don't think it rises to the level of encylopedic unless it was a significant historical event (i.e. the assassination of a president), or it sparked a international, national, or at least regional political movement. Chfowler 05:11, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
      • That standard's too high for a city of 90,000 people. Very little in any suburb's history would rise to the level of a presidential assassination. I could see shortening the paragraph and letting the Berkner entry tell more of the details, but removing it entirely takes away an event of local significance. I grew up attending Richardson schools and lived there from 1973 to 1986. My personal take on the entry is that it's well-written, but too short on events that might reflect negatively on the city. Rcade 14:52, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
        • My point is just that unless this specific event was more siginifiant that any other murder in the city, then it doesn't warrant inclusion in the article, unless you want to add a section to the article that gives a few details about every murder victim in the history of the city. If it did have some impact beyond the 'normal' impact of the crime, then by all means leave it in, but more details need to be added to show it's significance. The way the paragraph is worded now, it looks like it's only there because someone feels that the event was siginificant only because the victims were connected to Berkner High School. That makes the event likely to be significant for inclusion in the article about Berkner, but not about the city. FYI, I've lived in the Plano/Richardson area since 1991, and have friends who attended Berkner, and I have never heard of these events. Chfowler 00:58, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
          • It's impossible to judge it against other murders in the abstract. If you know of more significant murders (or other crimes) in the city's history, they should be included too. I'm not going to address your specific concerns with edits, because your "presidential assassination" standard is so excessive I can't imagine coming up with anything that would meet it. I take it as a given that most cities of 90,000 people would have a few crimes that rate a mention in a history of the city. I would remove the Berkner murders for more significant crimes, but not out of a general principle that the crimes weren't significant enough. Rcade 14:17, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
            • Based on your points, I've changed my mind about high level of significance required to make it encylopedic. So, I'm not saying it should be removed. I'm just saying that if it was of significance to the city, then add the text to exlpain why it stands out from other murders that happened in the city. Your original point above ("it inspired a protest march of 600 people, one student appeared in a gun control ad, and there was a lot of media coverage of the "violence comes to the burbs" variety") is the kind of thing I'm talking about. As it stands right now, someone not familiar with the history of the city would read the paragraph and probably say, "so what. Every city has had murders." Chfowler 16:22, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
              • I'll take a second pass at it this week. Thanks for the feedback. Rcade 13:05, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] University of Texas at Dallas

I think that it is a valid piece of information that is missing from this article that the University of Texas at Dallas, UTD, is in Richardson. I think this should be added in somewhere. Xadnder 8 July 2006

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Richardson Flag.gif

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[edit] Jeremy Issue

On January 8, 1991, Richardson High School student Jeremy Wade Delle fatally shot himself in front of his English class, an incident that inspired the Pearl Jam song "Jeremy."

I remember when this happened, and I remember it in the news, so it is a "historical event" that happened in Richardson. However, if you want this event to remain in this article, please provide a citation (newspaper or magazine article reference, etc) for some kind of credibility, otherwise, I to be consistent with previously removed items I support the removal. Thanks...

Ryanweath (talk) 14:28, 16 April 2008 (UTC)ryanweath re-adding this section along with citations

[edit] Two Girls One Cup

Regarding the Google trends thing that's been removed, it would make some sense that that much traffic came from Richardson since several major data centers for the various North Texas ISP's are here. Tracking like that doesn't indicate the location of the computer the request came from -- it's the location of the ISP (which could be located anywhere). Pretty funny, though, that Richardson's at the top of the list. We win! --nathanbeach 18:39, 16 April 2008 (UTC)