Talk:Richard Haldane, 1st Viscount Haldane

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Was the Viscount Haldane a life peerage or a hereditary peerage? I thought it was a hereditary peerage that just wasn't given to anyone else, but now that I think about it, that makes no sense... cryptfiend64 23:58, May 22, 2004 (UTC)

It was a hereditary peerage - there are no life Viscounts. Presumably, Lord Haldane had no sons, so his title died with him. john k 06:56, 23 May 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Labour Cabinet Ministers with experience

Haldane was a vital member of the Cabinet as he was one of only three members who had sat in a cabinet before; the other two had sat only briefly and for junior posts.

I know the second was Arthur Henderson but who was the third? Timrollpickering 15:06, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Probably J. R. Clynes who was a Minister in 1918, looking at Labour Government 1924 (though others had been undersecretaries) PS: could someone fix the box, with extra brackets?? though the spelling looks OK Hugo999 (talk) 04:27, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Richard Haldane quote he probably didn't want to be reminded off.

"We do not consider that aeroplanes will be of any possible use for war purposes"

[edit] He moved to the "left"?

In this context, I'm frankly unsure what the author meant by writing that Haldane moved to the "left"? Left in the meaning of the era, or left in our contemporary understanding of it? Left socially? Fiscally? Authoritatively? Can someone shed some light on this? (A citation would also be quite helpful on this point, as it may be a subjective claim).--Rumplefurskin 18:40, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Seems to mean something like 'closer to the Labour Party'. There's no need to make it so problematical. Norvo 01:55, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, since the usage of "left" and "right" varies with region, this usage is nearly useless to someone unfamiliar in detail with the present or historical politics of the U.K.. Something more needs to be provided. "Closer to the Labour Party", for instance, is far more illuminating! --Rumplefurskin 20:41, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

I've changed the phrase, as suggested. Norvo (talk) 17:17, 20 January 2008 (UTC)