Talk:Rich Dad, Poor Dad

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Kiyosaki says that he writes for 9 year olds. That explains a lot of things. Actualy he did not infact say that he said that he has a 9 yr old son and that he likes to wright him stories to help him to understand financial feedom.

rich dad poor dad is a book that make people think of how they want to continue living their lives.

That's nice. Spankthecrumpet 16:00, 16 October, 2005 (UTC)

Hey LordMac, not sure if consensus is reached yet.. please see kiyosaki article regarding John T Reed link. TastyCakes 18:48, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

I meant on this page, I know we're gonna have some fun over there =) LordMac 19:59, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

I am a CPA and I recently saw Kiyosaki on PBS. I became so angry with his innacurate advice that my wife thought I was going to destroy the TV. Anyone who does not deal with complex (or even simple) financial matters &/or transactions on a recurring basis should not give him their time or money. I imagine that those who are in the financial industry see right through him. I don't know why or how he expects to help people, but my guess is his own pocketbook is his main source of motiviation. Please see an accredited financial advisor or CPA (in the U.S.) about your wealth potential, rather than using this man's poorly thought out assumptions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.82.210.175 (talk • contribs)

I do not think he is guided by "helping people" alone. His primary objective would be to help himself. However if someone benefits from it, it would be something additional. His basic premise that we need to understand finance better and that one needs to put money into assets that give returns ( rather than a car) is fairly common sense and does not need any analyst to help. However he does state repeatedly that "hire good financial advisors" and "pay top money" if you are not strong in finance yourself before starting out. He tries to give the "approach" required rather than the " step 2 do x" level of detail that many people expect.Haphar 10:34, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] How does Robert Kiyosaki make a living?

I have seen Robert Kiyosaki on PBS several times. Regardless of my opinion about his advice, I would like to know how he makes a living (excluding any activity related to his books/tapes etc).

He doesn't. Nor do most BS RE guru's. --PeterMarkSmith 12:14, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] John T. Reed

John T. Reed is an author of investment books.

His rebuttal of Kiyosaki can be found here: http://www.johntreed.com/Kiyosaki.html A long read, I find it very convincing.


I agree that Reed's rebuttal is thourough and convincing. I think it should be included, and is not linkspam. OneWorld22 00:20, 12 January 2007 (UTC)


The content Reed's website was designed to attract traffic in order to sell books and newsletters. The comment is one thing but the link to the content isnt necessary. Shuim 01:45, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
After reading the article again I don't see that Reed is promoting his books. He has one link to his book as an alternative to Kiyosaki, and the rest of the several pages are devoted to debunking Kiyosaki. I have looked for other sources who used reed's information, but I couldn't find them. When I try to likn to reed's article, it just gets deleted, so how should the information be included? OneWorld22 06:10, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
The determination was already made by administrators that the link is linkspam. Shuim 12:24, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
When was that exactly? And I assume we can read some kind of deliberation on the matter? TastyCakes 22:04, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
Keep the criticism up to date and NPOV is probably the best we can do. His blinded supporters will always try to grease it up.

--PeterMarkSmith 12:15, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] " No one disputes that the rich buy "income-producing assets". "

" No one disputes that the rich buy "income-producing assets". Kiyosaki argues that the poor buy worthless items that they think are assets, which clearly do not earn anything, and may have no market value." "

What?? The first sentence seems like a generalization and one that could be easily rebuffed. Could this be reworded either to: give it context, or be written better?
-- Guroadrunner 14:15, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

I think critics are just jealous of his success. The book was an interesting read if nothing else. He has a bestseller, you don't; get over it.

What an awesome way of arguing. 208.111.241.155 (talk) 05:53, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Places to buy assets

I have read the book ever since I got it at Wal-Mart (for less than $15 dollars) and read it during my time at the Vocational Rehab center, and I believed that the book and his other books would help me make enough cash for my creative needs. But the thing is...where can I purchase assets a.k.a. things that "put money in my pocket", especially low-cost ones that I can buy? I am so sick and friggin' tired of hearing the flapping of my empty pockets/empty wallets! (and if anyone tells me to simply get a job, i'll outright delete the posts!)

A major critique of his books are that they are low on specifics, mostly generalities. SO if you want details, RDPD is probably not the place. OneWorld22 20:14, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Also, I want to know who his actual Rich Dad and Poor Dad are? I have read his books, yet I have no idea what they look like, or include Kiyosaki's own dads in his books. --Seishirou Sakurazuka 05:41, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Chapters

The Chapter part seems like just a plug for the book. I don't see how it gives any useful information about the book. OneWorld22 01:53, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

The article IS about a book. To list the chapters of the book that is the subject of the article is relevant to the article. Shuim 01:58, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
Can you point to any other book articles (that are any good) that include a list of chapters? TastyCakes 22:06, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] College text

I know of at least one college English course which requires its students to ready this book as an example of horrible writing.Isaac Crumm 05:27, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Be careful

Be careful following his advice. Dream but be careful. Don't chuck in your job, buy a condo with your credit card or not got to college because you think his book is recommending this. Read John T. Reed's online criticism as well to get a balanced view. I almost made mistakes following his advice but found my own way through. --PeterMarkSmith 12:14, 4 February 2007 (UTC) test

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[edit] Keith Cunningham

The article says Keith claims to be 'Rich Dad', and then says why he couldn't have been - is there any where that claim can be verified? On Keith's website, he says (of his period of bankruptcy in 1991):

  "First, I met a man named Robert Kiyosaki, who was teaching a small self- help program called Money & You. I took the course and found out some very profound things about me and my life. Robert and I became close friends for many years, staying at each other’s houses, vacationing together and ultimately teaching together."

He surely doesn't claim that he is Rich Dad in any historical sense?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.194.162.201 (talk) 12:59, 26 February 2008 (UTC)