Talk:Ricardo Bofill

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This article must adhere to the policy on biographies of living persons. Controversial material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted or if there are other concerns relative to this policy, report it on the living persons biographies noticeboard.

This article is within the scope of the following WikiProjects:

WikiProject Biography     (Rated Stub-Class) This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography. For more information, visit the project page. Biography Portal Stub This article has been rated as Stub-Class on the project's quality scale. [FAQ] WikiProject Spain Spain Portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Spain, an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to Spain on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please join the project. ??? This article has not yet received a rating on the quality scale. ??? This article has not yet received a rating on the importance scale. WikiProject Catalan-speaking Countries This article is part of WikiProject Catalan-speaking Countries which aims to expand and organise information better in articles related to the history, languages, and cultures of Catalan-speaking Countries. Please participate by editing the article, or visit the project page for more details. Catalan-speaking Countries Portal Architecture WikiProject (Rated Stub-Class) Architecture Portal This article covers subjects of relevance to Architecture. To participate, visit the WikiProject Architecture for more information. The current monthly improvement drive is Johannes Itten. Stub This article has been rated as Stub-Class on the assessment scale. ??? This article has not yet received an importance rating on the assessment scale.

[edit] Describing people with their regionality rather than their nationality

Some users are making changes and reverting edits in order to erase all traces as possible of the real and only nationality of Ricardo Bofill (which is a spaniard) in order to describe him with a regionality (catalonia is a region of Spain).

The users making these changes are of course, of catalan nationalist ideas.

I'm pretty sure readers from Europe will know that if someone is described as catalan, this means he is also spaniard (as the catalan nationality does not exist), but I really doubt people from Australia, Hong Kong or Guam would know this fact.

User Dunadan, for example, keeps saying that, if president Bush is described as texan, that doesn't mean he is not american. That may be true in a colloquial chat, but the encyclopedic tone of wikipedia, demands to describe him as an american citizen.

Unfortunately for user Dunadan, Catalonia is not so well known outside Europe as he wish. So wikipedia has become the "perfect" path to satisfy his political nationalist ego. Pushing his edits to the limits of truth, (Boffil is from the spanish region of Catalonia, but his nationality is spanish), he will, without remorses, describe him as catalan, omitting his only, real and official national identity, which is being a spaniard.

Fortunately, in late times, wikipedia has become for students and people wishing to learn, a marvellous way to improve their knowledge. If we allow these users to alter articles at their political wish, wikipedia's credibility will suffer from it.

For this reason, waiting an admin to state about this, I'm asking good faith users to revert (explaining the reasons for it in the talk page) these kind of edits from this users, which, while not lying, are, on purpose, leading future readers to mistakes about the real nationality of the gentleman described on this article and about the political status of the spanish region of Catalonia.

Thanks and Cheers! --Maurice27 08:52, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

It's not the same nationality as citizenship. People from Tibet are Tibetan (nationality) and Chinese (citizenship). People from Scottland are Scottish (n.) and British (c.). And people from Catalonia can be from Catalan or Spanish (or both) nationalities (there are people in Catalonia who don't feel Catalan, just as Tony Blair who probably feels more British than Scotish), and they will be probably spanish citizens. Let's add "citizenship" field and we won't have more discussions.--Xtv - (my talk) - (que dius que què?) 00:25, 21 June 2007 (UTC)