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Does anyone know who first said, "Living well is the best revenge"?

Attributed to George Herbert--Fitzaubrey 04:12, 28 July 2006 (UTC)


Mr. Freeze cries for "Vengence!" to whit The Batman replies "No... Justice.", a line he himself walks in his role as Gotham's vigilante in the service of his murdered parents.


This article is linked to the Golda Meir article from the link Vengeance, which is about the Israeli response to the 1972 Munich Olympic attacks. I think we may need a disambiguation page going to Vengeance. Flyerhell 09:07, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Silly examples

Given that revenge has been a consistent theme in great literature for hundreds of years, it seems to me a little silly to select examples like Batman, and Star Wars II. Jive Dadson 20:22, 9 March 2006 (UTC) Jive Dadson

I agree completely, can someone remove that fancruft crap?200.67.109.217 16:03, 30 October 2006 (UTC
I think the whole section needs to be rewritten. Right now it takes the form of one long sentence. LK 15:21, 15 April 2007 (UTC)


I think that maybe it should contain both modern references and classic references as regardless of how great a piece of literature work is (which would fall down to opinion) or how it's viewed in culture, they all still deal with the concept of revenge. Batman can have just as much to do with revenge as a theme as the Julius Caesar play. As this article isn't rating historical greatness I think that low and high culture references are valid (just please don't mention Jaws: The Revenge ;) ). Danno81 14:15, 12 October 2007

[edit] Revenge in Animals?

Revenge has been noted in several different animal species, particularly those of primate origins and elephants. Perhaps this could be noted somewhere.

[edit] Quotes

Francis Bacon has some nice quote material about revenge.

any examples?

[edit] Revenge is a dish best served cold

Revenge is a dish best served cold redirects here but there's little reason for it to do so. Anybody care to explain why it should? --Energman 20:44, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Revenge is a dish best served cold because the person who said it couldn't get back at their "enemy" at that time

I'm pretty sure that's not what it means. I think it means that revenge should not be colored by the passions, but rather should be cold and calculating to have maximum efficiency.
As to the purpose of the redirect, I think a lot of people would be looking up the Star Trek phrase. Whether a redirect is merited, I'll leave to others to decide.--Superluser 04:44, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

I tried my best to fix the origin and current use of this phrase, but most of the sources point back to Wikipedia itself (and often information that is no longer on the page).

The page on Pashtun People attributes the origins of the phrase to Pashtunwali, providing a book reference.

I think "Revenge is a dish best served cold" used to be an article in its own right, but has been merged. I think if you are going to mention this phrase it would be best to mention its use in Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan as it is the first attributed use of that phrase in its English form. Danno81 13:54, 12 October 2007