Talk:Republic of China United Nations membership referendum, 2008

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[edit] Sources

Here's one relating to the event.--Jerry 00:10, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Name

Since it's applying its membership under the name of Taiwan, shouldn't this article be moved to Taiwanese United Nations membership referendum, 2008?--Jerry 13:47, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

it has to do with consistent naming conventions. Somehow, someone decided a while ago that election articles shouldn't sound like normal speech. No one really says "United States presidential election, 2008" (with year last) but that's how Wikipedia chooses to do that. I really don't know why.

The purpose of the referendum itself should have no bearing on on name of the article.--Jiang 23:34, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

wait...aren't there two competing referendums held at the same time, on the same topic? The article does not mention the KMT's counter-proposal--Jiang 23:35, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

The purpose of the referendum itself should have no bearing on on name of the article. So...wouldn't this article be moved to Republic of China referendum, 2008 instead? But that would make no sense at all. Why is Republic of China included in the name of the article anyways?--Jerry 23:55, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

see Republic of China referendum, 2004

but that's not quite what I meant. The "Republic of China" and "referendum" and "2008" parts of the name are about stardard conventions, not the content of the referendum. The "United Nations membership" component is.--Jiang 01:06, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Republic of China referendum, 2008 would be a disambiguation page, since there are two referenda on Jan 12, and another two in March. In the least, we need two separate pages - one about plundering state assets, the other about joining the UN--Jiang 01:07, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

So in short, we are going to have two articles of referendum and one disambiguation page. My question is: are all their names going to contain the "ROC," since you said ROC is part of the standard conventions? If so, can you show me the page of the conventions, please?--Jerry 19:06, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

see Wikipedia:Naming_conventions#Elections. This is here and not at Taiwanese XXXX, 2008 or Chinese XXXX, 2008 for the same reason United States presidential election, 2008 is not at "American presidential election, 2008"--Jiang 22:28, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

But those are general and parliament elections, not referendum. Those are elections that are regularly held. I don't think referendums should follow the same conventions.--Jerry 23:38, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

convention favors current form: Referendum#Referendums_by_country--Jiang 07:37, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

So basically the format of a referendum article would be COUNTRY IN WHICH THE REFERENDUM IS SUPERVISED BY referendum, YEAR?--Jerry 20:39, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

basically.--Jiang 02:24, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

What about these: Tokelauan self-determination referendum, 2007 and Tokelauan self-determination referendum, 2006?--Jerry 14:21, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

The format is "demonym type election, year". In cases like Republic of the Congo/Democratic Republic of the Congo, United States, United Kingdom, Republic of China and so on, we use the name instead of a nonexistant or non-precise demonym. —Nightstallion 17:51, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

I believe the demonym for the ROC is Taiwanese, though. Why would it be non-precise?--Jerry 00:07, 13 November 2007 (UTC)