User talk:Renejs

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Please have a detailed look at the core policy Wikipedia:No original research. What it means is that Wikipedia is not a place to publish work you have done yourself. I have reverted your contribution to Nazareth because of this. It may be appropriate to add it back again later. DJ Clayworth 20:49, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Please also read Wikipedia:Verification and Wikipedia:Reliable sources. Thank you. DJ Clayworth 20:53, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Discussion on Nazareth

I posted a response to your comments on my talk page. Please feel free to continue the discussion there, or at the Nazareth talk page. User:Tiamut 10:44, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Do not be rude

Implying that I am childish is no way to carry on a discussion. While you may believe that Nazareth did not exist at the time of Jesus, you cannot patrol an article to exclude the newest archaeological developments so as to make it sound like there is continuing support for this thesis. The world has moved on. More and more archeological finds in Nazareth will establish many interesting things about its history. While you do not have to change your beliefs, you certainly have to let that information be represented in the article per WP:NPOV. Using Jayjg (talk ยท contribs) to get my edits reverted was very uncouth of you, particularly since you must be aware of our less than functional relationship. I am very disappointed. Tiamut 18:14, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kopp on Nazareth

I think we may have a legitimate historiographical question here. I've posted on the talk page asking people to say what they think. nadav (talk) 19:16, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Please stop harassing me

by repeatedly discussing your issues with the Nazareth article on my talk page instead of the article talk page. It is there to discuss edits related to the article. Please use it. Tiamat 18:36, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

One more thing, on my talk page, you accused me of deleting sourced information. I reviewed the history of my edits and could find no such thing. Could you please provide me with a diff outlining my "deletions"? Failing that, I expect that you will acknowledge that your accusation was unfounded and ideally try apologizing. Tiamat 10:59, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Arguments from silence"

The section of the "Nazareth" article, "Earliest history & archaeological evidence," seeks to present useful information, not conclusions which are unsubstantiated and debatable (see below). The statement that an "argument from silence is rarely proof of anything" (which I deleted 2 December 2007) is quite untrue, particularly in reference to archaeological data where digging in the ground plainly shows what is absent as well as what is present. As to the literary silence regarding Nazareth in ancient sources, this must be allowed to speak for itself, for it is a fact. A great many scholars find that silence quite significant, as a history of the Nazareth literature shows. To conclude on one side or the other in this matter is inappropriate. Finally, the possiblility that Nazareth was "merely a small, obscure and insignificant town" at the turn of the era is now under debate. That claim suffers from the following problems: (1) the fact that Luke chp. 4 portrays Nazareth as a "polis" ("city," v. 29), and one having a synagogue, means that the settlement had considerable population in the evangelist's mind; and (2) it is unlikely that even an insignificant village would have evaded all mention by Josephus who, for a time, lived only 3 kilometers away in Japhia.--Renejs