Talk:Remington 51

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[edit] Locking system

Good change on the action to "hesitation locked." Blowback was wrong, and the action is definitely closer to locked breech (which is why a .45 ACP version could be made), but I did not see the category for hesitation lock on the blowback page. Unfortunately, the "hesitation locked" link on the blowback page doesn't lead anywhere except back to the top of the blowback page. --Ana Nim 13:37, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Pedersen's pistols were the only firearms known to utilize this system, so there doesn't need to be a separate page, in my opinion, since this page explains it completely. --Asams10 15:30, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

What about the Benelli B76 pistol? D.E. Watters 16:38, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Funny, I bought a B76 because I could not, for the life of me, figure out how it worked. I think it was marketed as revolutionary (which it was) but in reality, it's a lever-delayed blowback more than anything else. Compare it to a French FAMAS. Funny, I looked up the patent for the B76 and it references the Pedersen patent. The Benelli patent is U.S. Patent 3,893,369 . The Pedersen patent is U.S. Patent 1,391,496 . I've got a great deal of data on the Remington 51. I plan on writing a definitive article when I retire soon.--Asams10 17:14, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

I would have to disagree with your assertion that the Benelli 76 is a Kiraly type lever-delayed blowback like the FAMAS. The R76 is locked breach design while the FAMAS' breach is not locked at all. It is a blowback action that is delayed by lever imparting significant mechanical disadvantage -- fancy name for a brake. On the other hand, the lever in the R76 is used to transfer inertia from slide into a movement that lifts the breach-block from its locking lugs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.21.123.50 (talk) 08:01, 18 February 2008 (UTC)