Talk:Red Barn Murder

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[edit] The movie version

The movie that was made of this case and is referred to at the bottom of the document was made in 1935. I have therefore removed the further claim that Tom Waits had a song in that movie on the grounds that Tom Waits wasn't born until 1949. --Stenun 12:30, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

I hope you think this is a reasonable edit. --Stenun 12:31, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Wait a minute, I think I might have made a mistake due to some poor wording *g*. The way it was written, I took it to mean the film had a song by Tom Waits. Was it meant to say that Tom Waits has written a song about this case that is completely unassociated from the movie? --Stenun 12:37, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Yes. I think it said "and" rather than "featuring". Yomanganitalk 12:51, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
True, but it was the "and" that was the source of the confusion. It was "a movie featuring Tom Slaughter and a song by Tom Waits" (roughly) or words to that effect. I don't see the point in putting it back exactly as it was, I hope my new edit prevents any future confusion and still relays the information accurately. --Stenun 21:43, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What Child?

The article refers to William and Maria's child. What child is this? The reference is made as though we should know there was achild.

The article had been vandalised and the section on the murder (which mentions the child) removed . Yomanganitalk 17:05, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tom Waits Song

Tom's song 'the Red Barn' is from his album "The Bone Machine", which was out before the album cited in this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.114.179.210 (talkcontribs) (21:40, 19 February 2007)

[edit] Ralphy

Vaughan Williams. Trust me. qp10qp 16:28, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Just laziness on not checking the link, sorry. Yomanganitalk 16:43, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Corder's burial?

According to the "Execution and dissection" section: "Until early this century [William] Corder's skeleton was on display in the Hunterian Museum in the Royal College of Surgeons of England, where it hung beside that of Jonathan Wild. In response to requests from surviving relatives Corder's bones have since been quietly removed and given a proper burial." I wonder who sourced this info? Is the writer talking about the present? Plus, I wonder if FindaGrave.com has recently added Corder to the list? If so, can you find the info for me, please? --Angeldeb82 03:04, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

I have edited this part of the article to show that the skeleton was cremated in 2004 following the guidance of the Human Tissue Act 2004. Moyse's Hall Museum has held discussions with descendants of the Corder family concerning the same act and the artefacts within their collections concerning the Red Barn Murder. --Edmund Patrick 14:35, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

I think the link you gave me won't show because it displayed an error. Can you fix it? --Angeldeb82 21:19, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
sorry hopefully these assist in research.[1] and for a 'history of the story [2]and then [3]--Edmund Patrick ( confer work) 08:58, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
removed link in original statement - link above valid. Sorry for any confusion.--Edmund Patrick ( confer work) 09:24, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Songs

Having only heard the one song Albion Country Band No Roses Murder of Maria Martin is it the same as Red Barn by Tom Waits. --Edmund Patrick 14:40, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

It's unlikely (even if neither of them are original there were a lot of songs composed in the aftermath) but you can listen to a bit of the Tom Waits' song at Amazon [4] if you already know what the other one sounds like. Yomanganitalk 14:55, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

It was just a thought, I have both artists in my collection, just wondered if Red Barn was an arrangement of Maria Martin song. Thanks --Edmund Patrick 18:39, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] red barn murder featured article

is it me? but the box says that it was a featured aricle in 2006. I thought it was coming in 2007. --Edmund Patrick ( confer work) 09:37, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Dear User:SandyGeorgia looking at the history of red barn and did you know I believe I confused featured article with did you know listing ( dates for featured articles are peer review 17 Feb. 07 and featured article candidate 24th Feb. 07.) and so thought the 06 date was wrong. Apologies Edmund Patrick ( confer work) 21:11, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Are you all squared away now? I'm not sure, but you also seem to be confusing the day it appears on main page with when it was featured: two different things. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:53, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Polstead

I see that in the opening paragraphs it is not mentioned that the murder happened in Polstead. The way it's worded could suggest to readers unfamiliar with East Anglia that the name of the village in question is Suffolk. Dancarney (talk) 09:54, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Find A Grave profiles

I created the Find A Grave profiles on William Corder and Maria Marten if you wish to add anything to the References section, all right? --Angeldeb82 (talk) 21:57, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lead image size

I am resetting (again) the lead image size per WP:MOS#Images:

  • Specifying the size of a thumbnail image is not recommended: without specifying a size, the width will be what readers have specified in their user preferences, with a default of 180px (which applies for most readers), and a maximum of 300px. However, the image subject or image properties may call for a specific image width to enhance the readability or layout of an article. Cases where a specific image width is appropriate include:
    • images with extreme aspect ratios
    • detailed maps, diagrams or charts
    • images in which a small region is relevant, but cropping to that region would reduce the coherence of the image
    • a lead image that captures the essence of the article (recommended not to be smaller than 300px, as this will make the image smaller for users who have set 300px in their user preferences).

SandyGeorgia (Talk) 05:50, 29 November 2007 (UTC)