Talk:Red-throated Diver
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My inclination would be to make the derivation the second sentence, or perhaps dagger the first sentence leading to the alternative names and derivation at the end. This bit could perhaps go below ---- or be small to distinguish it from the ornithogical bit. I think we are still feeling our way with a lot of the presentational bits jimfbleak 07:59 Apr 19, 2003 (UTC)
What's the source for RTD being able to take off from land - sounds improbable to me jimfbleak 05:51, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
I did not write it, but I think it is true. There are some sources in the internet (for example: here [or here]).Weird Bird 09:11, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

