Talk:Red-tailed Black Cockatoo

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[edit] Location

The Red Tailed Cockatoo is also found in the sourthen of W.A. !—Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.134.146.126 (talk) 12:00, October 23, 2005

[edit] Contradictions.

Something of a mismatch between the intro They are one of the rarest and most expensive cage birds, usually costing over 20,000 USD. and the text The Red-tailed Black Cockatoo is the most often seen of the Black Cockatoos to captivity and In Australia hand raised birds can sell for as low as AU$2500. Sabine's Sunbird talk 22:24, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

The first sentence was entered before I encountered the article. I presume it was written by someone in America, while the second...actually that was there when I found the article too! On a mental to-do list was to get a clear idea of the aviary trade and how much they were sold for in various countries...actually a to-do list is a good idea....cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:19, 16 June 2007 (UTC)


[edit] GA Review

This article has been nominated as a Good Article. I have reviewed it under the guidelines for Good Articles and have the following comments:

  • Referencing is adequate, although one of the references (IUCN) is represented by a bullet rather than a linked reference number like the others. This is a relatively minor issue.
  • There is no problem with licensing issues on the pictures, and the pictures illustrate the subject matter very well.
  • The article is comprehensive, and I do not see any major deficiencies in the coverage of the subject matter.
  • The article is written from a neutral point of view.
  • The prose is another matter. The article needs a significant copyedit before it can be promoted as a Good Article. Some random examples taken from the article include: (by no means a complete list)
    • It is called (minha) pachang, where minha is a qualifier meaning 'meat' or 'animal', in Pakanh, (inh -) inhulg in Uw Oykangand, and (inh -) anhulg in Uw Olkola, where inh- is a qualifier meaning 'meat' or 'animal' three aboriginal languages of central Cape York Peninsula
    • The tail is black with a bright red subterminal panels in the lateral tail feathers.
    • As they reach maturity, males will replace their yellow tail feathers with red ones as they moult, it takes approx 18 months to grow into its male feathers.
    • They are generally rather shy of humans. Flight is a rather slow with deep flapping.
    • The current Australian restrictions on commercial exports from Australia are not imposed by CITES, (a standalone paragraph leading me to think that the rest of the sentence/paragraph was deleted somewhere)
    • The Red-tailed Black Cockatoo is the most often seen of the Black Cockatoos to captivity,[30] and can be hardy and long lived if given plenty of space.
    • The male will start to "sing" and strut along his perch ending in a jump and a flash of red tail feathers toward the female who most the time will reply by biting him (defensively ),once the female has one egg in her nest she will not lay another , the egg takes about 30 days to hatch , the babies eyes will open around 3 weeks and the yellow down will show black pin feathers at about 6 weeks , best time for had raising is at about 10 weeks when their black feathers are in place but the tail feathers are still short , the baby will fledge after about 4 months.
  • The article needs some cleanup according to WP:MOSNUM as many of the units of measure are given in metric only

For the reasons outlined above, I am failing the nomination at this time, although when those suggestions have been implemented, you are free to re-nominate the article at any time in the future. Good luck. Neil916 (Talk) 19:39, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Gosh, I never even saw it referred. Oh well, I knew about alot of those. Time to get stuck into it I guess....thanks for the pointers...(2nd time that's happened to me)cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:37, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] To-Do List

Please enter material needed to get to FA here...cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 09:38, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

  • Find out and enter accurate information on aviary trade value in Oz and O/S -especially current Aus and O/S value.
  • Would love to find out how the NT 'farming' program is going but this is proving elusive online.
  • more aboriginal names/folklore
  • published material on vocalisations
  • It would be really cool to get a really nice photo too.
  • Blue redlinks (not essential but very helpful for FAC)

[edit] Subspecies

The photograph / picture in the article showing the sexual dimorphism in the graptogyne subspecies says that it is from Western Australia. However, graptogyne doesn't occur in Western Australia. I'm not sure of the origin of this photo. Either, the picture is not from Western Australia, or the picture shows one of the three subspecies that do occur in Western Australia (i.e. naso, samueli, macrorhynchus). Does anyone have any thoughts on this one? GCBabbler 02:03, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Dammit, I'd forgotten 'bout that one. I had tried to find out whether it was naso, samueli or what and never did. Oringial pic says it in WA but doesn't specify where. Best just remove subsp tag for teh mo' until we find out. cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:47, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
I tried looked at the female tail to give a clue which subspecies it might be, but there's not enough. No matter. The key point from the picture is to show the sexual dimorphism, and not the difference between subspecies. Cheers GCBabbler 04:29, 10 October 2007 (UTC)