Talk:Recognition of gay unions in New Jersey
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[edit] "Almost"
The article currently says that parties to a civil union will have "almost 100 percent of the rights" of married couples under state law. I do not understand the "almost", as the Supreme Court made clear that same-gender unions (under whatever name was chosen by the Legislature) had to carry all of the rights of marriages, and that is what the Legislature did. Is that incorrect? What rights are missing? Neutron 17:47, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
- Now someone has changed it from "almost 100 percent" to "almost all", which is better writing, but it does not answer the question. I am going to take out "almost" unless someone can provide a source showing that some right under state law (which is what the sentence is about) has been withheld. I am also wondering about the last sentence in that paragraph, about people not understanding civil unions and therefore treating them differently. While it is most likely true, the sentence seems to be written in a POV manner and it is unsourced. I am going to leave it alone for now and just put a "fact" tag on it. It probably should be in a different paragraph as well. Neutron 18:19, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
- Well, they don't get to tell people they have been allowed to join each other in a marriage. That's a pretty damn non-negligible right that married couples have under state law, that civil union...ed... people are denied. --John Kenneth Fisher 18:39, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Formatting
I changed the format of the article so that the two main separations are now legislative activities and judicial activities. I believe this will flow better, and also removes some redundant information. Brianga 04:18, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] No Not true
I removed this section
"This was the first time in the history of the United States that the highest court of any state had ruled unanimously in favor of the rights of same-sex couples."
This is not true information as Baker v. Vermont (1999) was the 1st state to rule unanimously in favoer of such rights. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.24.251.2 (talk) 10:57, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Removing California from list
In the Recognition of out-of-state relationships section, I've removed California from the list because California same-sex marriages were not included in the Formal Opinion issued by the NJ attorney general in February 2007, which is what that section is discussing. It is misleading to add California there, when same-sex marriage was not legalized at the time the Formal Opinion was written.
However, I've added a parenthetical paragraph to say that presumably CA marriages will be recognized in the same way as those from other jurisdictions. I think this is the most accurate way to present the information.Textorus (talk) 21:36, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
