Talk:Ray Martin (television presenter)
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[edit] Unsourced materials
I like Jpeob's reason for deleting the John Safran section for being unsourced althought this WHOLE article is unsourced and yet Jpeob does not delete the other sections (e.g. Awards, etc). This article smells like an advertisement/press release for Ray Martin as someone suggested. Jpeob, are you Ray Martin or do you work for him?
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This article reads like a press release written by channel 9. I certainly don't consider him a good journalist. Anyone ever actually _watch_ ACA?
- His pay packet and staying power all these years says otherwise.
Well, for one, he got dropped from ACA due to poor ratings. Against Naomi Robson no less. Are you saying she's a better journalist? He's a presenter, not a journalist. And the amount he gets paid is not any kind of useful metric for how good a journo he is. Personally, I think he's an absolute tosser, but I don't go writing that in the article. As it is, the article gives a pretty glowing description of him, let's not make it an all out glurge. Bumnut 00:41, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
What? Have you actually considered the scope of Ray Martin's career? His career as a journalist has spanded over 40 years, and you dont consider him a good journalist? In my opinion, he is the greatest journalist in Australian television history. A journalist is required to report and present. Ray Martin has been claimed by many to be the "prince of all interviewers." Why would the ledgendary Kerry Packy send this so called "tosser" to interview Prince Charles, or the great Sir Donald Bradman? Furthermore, he did not get dropped from ACA, he left on his own accord because of terrible producers. After a year of firings at channel 9, Ray Martin is STILL there. If he was not good enough for ACA, then why would he still be at channel 9? I agree that ACA is a crap show, and that is why Ray left it. He is simply too good for ACA, and even for 60 minutes for that matter. That is why he is channel 9's senior correspondent - he is the best in the business. I have met this wonderful bloke, and consider him to be among the best in the world. A "tosser" would not have lasted this long at such a newsworthy television station. Packer would have fired him long ago, and you know that. And may i remind you that "Midday" was one of the most popoular shows on Australian television. He is too good for ACA. Better than anyone else. That is why he has won 5 gold logies - for most popular television personality - equal to Graham Kennedy. Get your facts right. Unsigned 22:46, 21 December 2006
The issue of whether or not he is a good reporter is irrelevant. This is an encyclopedia, not a forum for expressing opinions. You say 'get your facts right', you seem to be missing the point that this is not an issue of fact, but opinion. Open Encyclopedia Brittanica and you wont find under anyone's biography statements like 'X is widely considred to be...' etc. Statements like that have no place in factual documents. State his achievements and longevity all you like, but leave it for the reader to decide whether or not he is any good.
[edit] Picture
Not to anyone reading this, find a better picture of raymartin, it looks like someone used a webcam to snap a picture off their broken TV 202.191.107.40 12:44, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
- A broken tv that had Vaseline spread thick all over it 202.191.107.40 12:45, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Criticism:
The Criticism para has been re-inserted. The previous editor's deletion on the grounds of potential libel is spurious. The entry complies with Australian defamation law, with the defences of truthful comment and valid literary criticism. Someone is being too precious. The previous editor who removed the entry on the grounds of bias is also being too precious, as the entries regarding Martin's support for Dr Holt's "microwave therapy" are entirely truthful and referenced. Martin falsely raised the hope of those suffering cancer and their families, for which he is being justly criticised.
In the meantime go to the NHMRC website announcing the release of their Report at http://www.nhmrc.gov.au/news/media/rel05/holt.htm
Finally, who is protecting Martin from IP address 58.172.129.216? —Preceding unsigned comment added by BogongMoth (talk • contribs)
Why was the previous Jon Safran bit edited? It now reads like a Ray Martin fan site. Safran was criminally assaulted by martin. The episode was catured on film. I've seen it with my own eyes. it is exquisite irony - "Why aren't you at work Ray? it's 9.00 O'clock!" Martin is exposed for the hypocrite he is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.45.172.214 (talk) 13:25, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
