Talk:Ratchet (Transformers)
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...that was tiring...
I would VERY MUCH APPRECIATE any help from those better-versed in the cartoon to add into that section.
Also, on the toy section, it should be noted (by whoever does it eventually) that the toy was the only version of Ratchet that used robot mode 2 and that it couldn't form robot form 1, even though that's the one always seen in the comic series and the cartoon.
Also, Ironhide and Ratchet shared the same mold but for painting and the addition of a lightbar on Ratchet. Neither could transform into the robot mode seen on television...
Anyway, that's what a Transformer character page should look like! I'll take on Bumblebee next! :-)
VigilancePrime 22:40, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
It was not Ratchet who created the first Pretenders. AFAICR they were created by the Autobot Headmasters or Targetmasters. Ratchet did, however, create the first Pretender Classics. — JIP | Talk 10:20, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
- Good catch. My mistake. Thanks for the fix. VigilancePrime 16:49, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
JIP: I was hoping you might be able to provide a reference for the One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest trivia part? While I in a way like the idea, I am wondering if this is conjectural. Considering original Transformer names, I imagine that Ratchet was named for the tool, a ratchet, which would be used to fix a car. Just like Jazz listens to Jazz, is "on the Jazz", etc., Prowl is, as a police car, on the prowl, Bumblebee is a yellow bug... etc. VigilancePrime 18:04, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
- With some googling, I was able to find a Bob Budiansky interview on http://www.bwtf.com, where he says Ratchet was named after "Nurse Ratchet" [sic] in "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest". I don't know whether Budiansky means the novel or the film based on it. — JIP | Talk 10:51, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the reference. I think that's pretty cool, actually; I love that movie (and it was filmed near where I live/grew up too!). Glad to have it back. VigilancePrime 01:59, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
Does anyone think we should add the tech specs to the character pages or perhaps a list of Transformers for each of the series? --JamesR1701E 21:56, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Death
20:05, 18 June 2006 VigilancePrime m (after the issue-78-merge, he was alive and "wounded" never did Ratchet die.)
- The merge was in issue #69. Issue 78 is where he exploded the Ark in Earth orbit with himself in it, it crashed, and we never saw him again. Even so, the statement is false. He would not be the only character to survive through all 80 issues. Off the top of my head... Cliffjumper never dies. And according to what I perceive as your definition of "death," Bumblebee never died either. He was wounded, yes, but always rebuilt. --ItsWalky! 23:18, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
- I'll grant you the #78 Ark-into-Earth point as my error of memory (my set of the series is currently in storage). As for the Cliffjumper track, EVERY original Autobot and Decepticon was blasted by Shockwave in the final panels of issue #4, with the exception of Ratchet.
- On the other hand, yes, the definition of "Death" is very subjective and certainly not consistent through the series (illustrated by the many times Prime died and yet came back!). It's tricky to really place.
- So with that said and we being in general agreement, how can it be worded so that Ratchet's knack for survival can be properly and still accurately stated? I believe that it is paramount to the character's history that he survived through it all. If you were to sit down and have a Transformer give you their account of "The life and times of the Autobots and Decepticons," I fully expect that you'd be hearing it from Ratchet. (Maybe that's not a very good analogy, but I think you can understand what I mean.)
- Anyway, I see what you're getting at in the change and I agree with the intent. I'd just like to see something a little more praising of Ratchet, at least conveying his survivability. (...if that makes any sense.)
- VigilancePrime 04:47, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
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