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Contents 1 Mother's name 2 Disambiguation 3 Rashi script 4 Commentaries on Rashi`s commentary 5 Vandalism!!! 6 Anachronistic Image 7 RASHI and the Development of the French Language 8 Rashi picture 9 no footnotes

[edit] Mother's name

Rashi's mother's name is most likely Leah, which was the name of the widowed vintner who lived in Troyes in the mid-11th century and wrote a responsa to the Bet Din protesting taxes on her vineyard. It is highly unlikely that there was more than one Jewish widow winemaker in Troyes at this time, and we know Rashi's mother was one. -- Esparkhu 05:12, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

There is no evidence that Rashi's mother's name was Miriam. -- Mapark 05:56, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

So how do you know she was a winemaker? -- Zsero 23:57, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Rashi's father died when he was a child, and he was thus raised by his widowed mother. The family business was winemaking (a Respona in Tshuvot Rashi mentions him repairing wine vats during Chol Moed - something only the winemaker himself would be allowed to do), and since he was away in the Rhineland studying while his mother supported him, she must have been a vintner as well. At the least she ran the wine business and hired others to do the actually wine making. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mapark (talk • contribs) 22:16, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

People made wine for their own consumption. There's no evidence that the family made wine for a living. -- Zsero (talk) 15:55, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Disambiguation

needs a disambiguation page for rashi are also the hindoo equivalent of zodiac signs, mentioned on the hindoo calendar page

[edit] Rashi script

There needs to be a conversion Pic from hebrew letters to Rashi letters.

Note re above comment: There is a very good 'Conversion Pic' from hebrew letters to Rashi script at the following web page:

http://www.schechter.org/sager/links/fifth/Rashi/RashiScript.html

In the table presented on that page, the Hebrew letter is always the left side and the equivalent Rashi script is the right side, for each pair.

[edit] Commentaries on Rashi`s commentary

--69.114.174.131 23:22, 4 June 2006 (UTC)You should make an article on the commentaries on Rashi,on both of Rashi`s commentaries, written by many torah scholars from the tosafits to modern day scholars.

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[edit] Vandalism!!!

I reverted this page to a prior edit because of the worst kind of vandalism. Here is a selection of what was done to this page on 19:28, 24 August 2006 by an anonymous person from the I.p. address User:68.157.134.176.

The restatement of the defamatory remarks herein is further defamation. I believe that these quotations amount to graffiti, and, therefore, should be deleted immediately.--Lance6968 00:03, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Whatever. You totally misundstood the basis for me posting the remarks! Did you honestly think I posted them as graffiti? Anyway, I have put in a request for this page to be protected from anonymous users. However, the administrators told me that the vandalism is not consistent enough to protect the page. So they told me to just keep on reverting the damage (which is a bunch of B.S.). (!Mi luchador nombre es amoladora de la carne y traigo el dolor! 20:06, 26 October 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Anachronistic Image

The image shows Rashi reading a book. However, when he was alive, there were no books. Rashi read parchment scrolls.Lestrade 23:57, 5 April 2007 (UTC)Lestrade

Torah scrolls, probably, but the codex is a late antique invention. —Charles P._(Mirv) 05:18, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Good thinking both you editors! :) The thing that strikes me in the picture is that Rashi is writing. A model we editors could copy. ;) Alastair Haines (talk) 08:11, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RASHI and the Development of the French Language

This article should contain RASHI's contribution to the development of the French language. --Lance6968 00:25, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

What contribution would that be? Zsero 23:59, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rashi picture

Although I think the picture is very nice, it is a copyright violation. The picture's supposed source states: "No part of this web site may be reproduced in any form or by any means without written permission." A proper (scholarly) source needs to be found, which gives the name of the artists who drew it and when the work was first created. --Ghostexorcist 10:40, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Nobody knows who drew it, or when. It's old. Who came up with the iconic picture of Jesus that everybody recognises? Someone hundreds of years ago, whose name has been lost. The picture is certainly not copyright by the web site that Chesdovi took it from. A blanket copyright statement does not cover public domain material that they included. Zsero 14:36, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

The following comes from Wikipedia's "10 things you did not know about images ...

3 – "Failure to provide a source (who made it) and license (how it can be used) will result in the image being deleted, possibly as soon as 48 hours. You must provide this information for all images uploaded. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. You must provide this information for all images you upload, with no exceptions, or the images will be deleted."

4 – "Do not go to the nearest website and grab an image of a person/place/building. It is extremely likely that image is both copyrighted and fails our non-free content policy, which states that a non-free image may be used only when it cannot be replaced."

Please see also: Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria. Number one on this page might be of some use to you, but I can suggest another route. Someone from Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/Images to improve can possibly make a vector drawing of the portrait. It would be free of any copyright problems, but I fear they may not do anything with it since the image's source info is very weak. But for an example, one of my articles went FA and was on the Main Page. The image I used at the lead was permissible, but FA articles should only have free content as lead photos. They took another image from the page (note the old guy in blue) and created a new photo. Someone did the body, but I did the face. Most Jpeg drawings become graining and spotted when enlarged, but the best thing about vector is that you can increase or decrease the size of something without sacrificing resolution. For an example, see my main user page. The image has been blown up from its much smaller original size and it still looks good. --Ghostexorcist 18:52, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

This is not non-free content included under fair use or some other exception. It is free content. It's PD-old and PD-art. The uploader included his source; if you want the artist's name you will never get it, because it's not known. And it's not needed. Consider the case of trad songs - sometimes songs are erronously attributed to "trad" when they're in fact still under copyright, but there are thousands of songs that are genuinely trad, and no amount of demanding will get you the author's name, but nobody would claim that they could not be reproduced on WP for that reason. WP:Common Sense -- Zsero 20:00, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

No one knows who the artist is or when it was made. Therefore, it is not PD-old or PD-art. It could have been drawn 50 years ago or even less. You don't know. Every picture has to have a proof of where it came from originally. Some random website is not a credible source. Even the original uploader has no idea when the picture was made. --Ghostexorcist 20:15, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] no footnotes

The lack of references (apart from the generalized list at the bottom) severely detracts from this article. The legend, for example, is very nice, but where is it taken from?--Gilabrand 07:37, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

There is a mistake under the picture of the old Rashi text. I studied the Talmud and read and speak Hebrew very well. You can see with a magnifying glass how differnt the text is between Rashi's and the rest.

This is the way it should read:

An early printing of the Talmud(Ta'anit 9b); Rashi's commentary covers most of the left column starting with the large word, continouing for seven lines at the bottom of the right column. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Matania GINOSAR (talk • contribs) 06:00, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

No, it doesn't. What you say doesn't even make any sense - Hebrew is written right to left, so how could it start in the left column and continue into the right column?

In any case, it's simply not so. Rashi's commentary starts at the bottom of the right column with lo mimeimei oceanos, and continues for three lines in the left column, from batchila. -- Zsero (talk) 01:23, 10 February 2008 (UTC)