User talk:RandysRodeodotcom

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Please do not add inappropriate external links to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a mere directory of links nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Inappropriate links include (but are not limited to) links to personal web sites, links to web sites with which you are affiliated, and links that exist to attract visitors to a web site or promote a product. See the external links guideline and spam policies for further explanations of links that are considered appropriate. If you feel the link should be added to the article, then please discuss it on the article's talk page rather than re-adding it. See the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you. --Guinnog 21:51, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Please stop adding inappropriate external links to Wikipedia. It is considered spamming, and Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising. Thanks. --Guinnog 21:59, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

This is your last warning. The next time you insert a spam link, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Persistent spammers may have their websites blacklisted from Wikipedia. --Guinnog 22:03, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] External links, yes - innappropriate, no.

With all due respect, the links I am adding are completely apropos to the subjects. The articles are well written and researched, and enhance the Wiki as a result. Thanks.

In that case, please discuss the addition on each individual article's talk page and obtain consensus there, rather than adding them en masse. Thanks. --Guinnog 22:10, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

External links should really kept to dedicated websites. Except in the case of citations, we don't normally link to individual articles, otherwise the links sections would grow out of control. Also, your username, jeez, you could have been a bit more subtle.

Your website is fairly comprehenisve, and I'm sure that in time people will start citing it in time. - Coil00 22:19, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Am reading through the Sex Pistols section of your site, BTY, there's plenty that could be incorporated into the Wikipedia article. A commercial website like this is excellent as a source of cited primary information, but you cannot link spam as you've been doing. Best solution, as Guinnog mentions above, is to alert editors in the talk pages and let them do the rest. Thanks - Coil00 22:31, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

I've read the guidelines, and I really don't see what I was doing as spam. I was trying to contribute to the project - quality links, precisely placed, nothing showy. And many of the links above the ones I inserted linked to pages (as opposed to sites). But, you're the editors. BTW, my user name was an attempt to be transparent. That worked out nicely... RandysRodeodotcom 22:46, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I don't doubt your good intentions, and that's fair enough about the username. The problem really is that these links are 'vanity' links. Not a nice word and probally unfair in this case, but the principal is that if an subject or source is notable enough to be included, then someone else will incorporate it. Of course, you need to let people know about the site, but the proper way is through the talk pages. I've only looked at your Sex Pistols article so far, and its great. I've been trying for a while to bring in the fact McLaren's booking of the band into such quote 'country & western' nightclubs was deliberatly provocative, and now you've given me an authoritative source. Thanks for that. - Coil00 23:06, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your message; reply

Thanks for your message Randy. I'm sorry you feel my action was heavy-handed. It would have helped if you had read the guidelines on external links before posting so many to our site, or if you had heeded my first two warnings rather than continuing to add links. No matter. I had a look at your site. It is an impressive resource, although from the brief look I had it contains errors and lacks proper sources. There are many links from it to Amazon, which, as a commercial site, we are not allowed to do. All in all, my initial assessment of your site is that it would be better if you could use your undoubtedly great knowledge of music to add reliably sourced information to Wikipedia articles which need it (and you are right that many do), than to use your site itself as a source or an external link. Best wishes --Guinnog 20:50, 4 November 2006 (UTC)