Talk:Ramzan Kadyrov

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[edit] Miscallaneous section

Miscallaneous sections on Wikipedia are considered very bad form. All imformation within this section should be dispersed to apropriate places within the article. --The_stuart 18:32, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

  • Kadyrov is known for keeping a pet lion cub, given to him as a gift after the birth of his first son, as well as a tiger and a number of a fighting dogs; also used to own a wolf and a bear.
  • Ramzan publicily admires Shamil Basayev as a "great warrior" he would like to face and defeat personally. Kadyrov reportedly refers to the Russians as an "infidel dogs", and he has no respect for Chechnya's historical hero Imam Shamil because he surrendered to them. He also appearently believed Basayev is hiding in United States, and spoke he would go there to fight him.
  • He has stated that red haired Chechens are the bravest fighters (Chechens are known for their high percentage of red haired people and so red hair is feared by local Russian and other non-Chechen inhabitants of the region). Abu Musab al-Suri 13:09, 16 June 2007 (UTC)


  • In 2005 Ramzan declared there will be "the world's largest mosque" built in the place of the demolished ruins of the Grozny's downtown. He also announced that Chechnya is the "most peaceful place in Russia" and in few years it will be also "the wealthiest and the most peaceful" place in the world; he also claimed the war is "already over" with only 150 "bandits" remaining (contradicting the official figures of 700 to 2,000 active duty rebel fighters). According to Kadyrov, thanks to his father 7,000 separatists defected to the Russian side since 1999, and the main rebel activity is now outside the borders Chechnya.
  • When his first son was born in November 2005, the region enjoyed a public holiday, marked by all-night salutes of machinegun fire that left civilians cowering in their basements.

[edit] Naming

I have google searched for both names (with full name in quotations): Ramsan Kadyrov returned only 219 pages, while Ramzan Kadyrov returns a hefty 49,400 pages. Based on this, I propose to change the name. MarkBeer 03:14, 16 January 2006 (UTC)


Agreed. This isn't even debatable. There's no reason to have the 's' in his name. This is a major embarassment to the encylclopedia's credibility within the Chechen diaspora community.

Well I have moved the article to Ramzan Kadyrov because everyone seems to use that spelling and we should try to get these things correct --Wikipediatastic 17:49, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] pre-1999

Anyone knows any facts before he had switched sides? Or was he completely unknown back then?

[edit] Presidential campaign

[1] if someone feels ready to update.

[edit] NPOV?

I know this man is not exactly a kind gentleman with a heart of gold, to say the very least. However, having almost 50% of the article for his alleged atrocities, without considering the other side of the story, seems a little bit too much. Maybe we need more NPOV here.Tnapoleao 09:37, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Not necessarily. Right now, this wikipedia article doesn't BEGIN to describe all that Kadyrov has done to Chechnya.

I'm no fan of this fella, but this article (and the talk page) is riddled with unsubstantiated sources. franz fanon Sep 22 07 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.112.78.156 (talk) 16:00, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

I have to agree here, there should be notices of what he is credited for too. 77.250.171.134 (talk) 22:48, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

This article definitely needs some oversight. People feel quite strongly about Chechnya, needless to say. However, his human rights abuses are widely attested by Time, Newsweek, the BBC, etc. -Cpapadelis April 31 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.22.152.239 (talk) 18:37, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Definitely NPOV.

Ramzan Kadyrov is a hero of the Chechen people and knows that only peace can come from co-operation and mutual friendship with Russia. Kadyrov is an advocate of peace and a great man who has fought against islamic extremism so that Chechnya can be a free and prosperous autonomous nation-state inside Russia.

Such NPOV in the article and use of irrelevant images should be ceased immediately, as they are most likely edited by pro-Islamofasicst, pro-Al Qaeda Terrorist maniacs who want to enslave Chechnya under the banner of Sharia law that enslaves the Chechen people, whether they be Muslim or Otherwise.

Chechnya is finally at peace and its people are free, due to the killing of Basayev and the rise of Kadyrov as our leader. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 211.27.243.73 (talk) 07:10, 4 February 2007 (UTC).

Hello there! No, I don't need a Ramzan t-shirt --HanzoHattori 21:06, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pro-Kremlin/Human Rights Abuses

Is there anyone who actually disagrees that Kadyrov's administration is pro-Kremlin? Or that he may very well be responsible for human rights abuses? Samian 19:23, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Date

The intro says that Ramzan has been President of Chechnya since 2 March 2007. However, he was appointed acting president on 15 February and was sworn in for a regular term on 5 April. 2 March is only significant as the date he was elected, which seems to be irrelevant if we're talking about the date he took office. It seems to me the intro should say either 15 February or 5 April. Everyking 12:54, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] trivia

I'd propose to change this into a section about his highly extravagant lifestyle.

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Kadyrov Army.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 23:30, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Kadyrov Medal.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 23:31, 13 February 2008 (UTC)