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Contents 1 Rain Man 2 Plot revision 3 blown cover 4 Hot water incident 5 Family Guy reference 6 60 Minutes: George Finn 7 Critical Reception? 8 Plot summary 9 Popular culture

[edit] Rain Man

The article does not seem to say what term has seen use in slang. 'Rain Man'?

The article has been clarified, and the term "Rain Man" (as you correctly guess) is the word the writer had in mind. [[206.72.11.46 28 June 2005 20:01 (UTC)]]

[edit] Plot revision

I just saw this movie again recently. The plot summary is lacking in both order, detail, and accuracy. I will try to fix it over the next few days, but any other help would be greatly appreciated - Scm83x 10:11, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Scm83x – How exactly is the plot summary "lacking" in order, detail and accuracy? It may not be a bad idea to revise the article, especially if important plot details are missing. But I saw this film too, and I think this article hits a number of the high points, and is presented in a logical fashion. [[206.72.11.46 28 June 2005 18:06 (UTC)]]

The article hits the high points but not really in a logical fashion. Some events are not explained well and cause and effect relationships are ignored. The plot wouldn't make much sense if you hadn't already seen the movie. - Scm83x 28 June 2005 18:42 (UTC)

Scm83x – Yeah, I can see what you're saying. I was responsible for writing a major portion of the plot, though it's been awhile since I've seen the movie. Perhaps a new, fresher perspective would be a good thing (especially with the cause-and-effect thing). [[206.72.11.46 28 June 2005 19:57 (UTC)]]

I fixed the typos - I think it is okay to take off the repair tag. -Mydotnet 23:52, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] blown cover

"However, Raymond is soon distracted by a spinning roulette wheel (which he likens to Wheel of Fortune), and Charlie's cover is blown."

It's actually the Big Money Wheel, not Roulette.

I don't understand why Charlie should be covered here, because the do not cheat anyways. The casino managers just think that they might cheat and want them to leave, but they didnt find anything of course.

actually some savants are faster than computers so it could be considered cheating, but i want to know if they can really count cards like that, or if they have to learn the skill.24.3.56.115 13:39, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

The didn't cheat, that's correct. Counting cards is not cheating, nor is it considered cheating in any regulated casino. It is not cheating to have a superior mental ability; similarly, the house will not give you back your losses if you have an inferior mental ability and claim that you have thus been cheated. That's why they were thrown out, but not arrested. RUReady2Testify 02:48, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hot water incident

The article says:

As Charlie draws water for a bath, Raymond has a panic attack, screaming, "Hot water burn baby", suggesting that Raymond almost burned his infant brother in scalding water, and this is why he was sent to the Walbrook Institution, although it was more likely that the father found himself unable to look after Raymond following the death of the mother (Raymond mentioned that he was sent to Walbrook a few days after his mother's death).

I disagree with this elaborate explanation. Isn't the simpler explanation found in the shot when Charlie & Raymond walk away from the bath, and the viewer can see that unbeknownst to Charlie the photograph of Raymond with Charlie as a baby had fallen into the bath (Raymond presumably is unable to distinguish between the photo of a baby and a real baby). Ben Finn 15:52, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

• No, the photograph falls in after the whole flashback scene & the singing. 166.113.52.54 15:57, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Family Guy reference

In the last episode of season 3, Peter shouts "UH-OH!" twice in very embarrassing scenarios. Obviously a reference to this film! Should this be included? 211.30.93.241 11:59, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 60 Minutes: George Finn

I believe 60 Minutes discused a man named George Finn as a basis for the character?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/01/26/60minutes/main2401846.shtml

(CBS) This segment was originally broadcast on Jan. 28, 2007. It was updated on Sep. 5, 2007.

Almost 25 years ago, 60 Minutes introduced viewers to George Finn, whose talent was immortalized in the movie "Rain Man." George has a condition known as savant syndrome, a mysterious disorder of the brain where someone has a spectacular skill, even genius, in a mind that is otherwise extremely limited.

Eh, no. I think you want Kim Peek. Maybe they mean his syndrome was immortalized in Rain Man... And anyways, I didn't think mental retardation was a prerequisite for savantism... 74.32.229.23 (talk) 19:37, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Critical Reception?

It doesn't say anything about what people thought of it. Isn't that usually included in movie articles? Especially with such a successful movie about such an unknown topic. In fact, I thought I saw a show talking about how a bunch of autistic people (mainly adults) recognized their symptoms thanks to this movie. Well, it was probably a 60 minutes sort of thing, but still. At least from the standpoint of people dealing with autism (in whatever way), it was an influential movie. And anyways... we have so much of the plot and so little of what it did in the world. So... yeeeaaah. Go autism. 74.32.229.23 (talk) 19:45, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Plot summary

The plot summary has been overlong for quite some time. At over 2200 words it was one of the longest plot summaries on Wikipedia.

I've trimmed back drastically by removing excessive detail, removing over ten kilobytes and summarising, resulting in a plot summary of about 420 words, more in line with Wikipedia practice. --Tony Sidaway 05:56, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Popular culture

There are many references to Rain Man in popular culture but it isn't our job to catalog them all. I've trimmed the section to illustrate the common use of such references with two or three examples. --Tony Sidaway 20:41, 31 January 2008 (UTC)