Talk:Race card

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Contents 1 profanity 2 German translation 3 question 4 Two definitions??? 5 personal opinion by 64.238.136.183 moved from article 6 Not entirely accurate depiction of offending TV ad in Helms campaign. 7 Native Americans

[edit] profanity

I do not believe the quote from Ice Cube meets wikipedia standards for the use of profanity. The article can accurately describe the rapper's stance on the issue without using profane or offensive language. Moreover, it seems to be dangling in the middle of the article for no reason and with no discussion of its merrit. I will remove it for the time being until someone decides to discuss the song in terms of importance to the article and not as one of the millions of references to the term. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrathel (talk • contribs) 20:06, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] German translation

To the bender who keeps putting it back in, if you have a reasonable argument for its place in the article please say so

[edit] question

hi i new in us tourist... nice to met you i have a question... my frind callmed me nigger... i want to nkonw if this is teh race card isue.;. thx

[edit] Two definitions???

I have never seen race card used in the sense of simply being a racist. It is always used to refer to accusing others of being a racist; if nobody can substantiate the second definition then I'm going to revert to the previous edit. Matt gies 21:58, 7 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Actually, that definition feels right. For instance, George Bush might accused Dukakis of "playing the race card" for attacking the Willie Horton ads. Meelar 22:00, 7 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Willie Horton? Not familiar with that... Could you provide a news link? Matt gies 22:09, 7 Mar 2004 (UTC)

See the article on Willie Horton. Many commentators of the liberal POV accuse the Bush campaign of playing the race card by making Horton an issue at all. Of course, as correctly noted by the article, the ad which showed Horton's photo was not sponsored by Bush's campaign but an independent group. Nevertheless, the accusation is still being made 15 years after the fact. 209.149.235.254 23:25, 8 Mar 2004 (UTC)

I'm of the impression that 'race card' implies using the issue of race and racism for ulterior motives. Since I've heard many usages of the term where the implied application of such a 'race card' is more than just accusing someone of racism.

[edit] personal opinion by 64.238.136.183 moved from article

The phrase "race card" itself has many ugly racist connotations. 1) The implication that racism has somehow ended, which is clearly patently false. 2) The implication that those who work to end racism, or simply wish to discuss the issue, are somehow engaged in a scam or a cheap tactic. 3) By tying terms like hustler to the phrase "race card", many users of the phrase promote racism by equating Blacks or other minorities to criminals. 4) Finally, many of those employing the term "race card" have longstanding ties to racist groups such as the Ku Klux Klan, or support for racist individuals such as David Duke or Pat Buchannon. The phrase ironically is also sometimes used by self-hating minorities eager to win the favor of conservative whites, such as J.C. Watts.

Not necesserily, just because racism still exists and those who fight it do a worthy job, doesn't mean that everyone who claims to fight racism actually does. And #4 sounds like like an ad-hominem attack, just because some use the term for highly selfish reasons doesn't mean the term itself is illegitimate, or that they are even false.

Totally agree. Just because there is still racism around - and it is indeed worthy to fight it - does not mean that you can use people's fear of being labled as racists against them in debates where race has no real bearing. Also, the whole idea of self-hating minorities is racism at its worst, or maybe more of collectivism - just because someone believes differently than his peers of creed, race or nationality, that does not in any way make him a traitor or such. We are all entitled to our individual opinion; people have opinions, races and other minorities do not.

[edit] Not entirely accurate depiction of offending TV ad in Helms campaign.

Strange that I would remember this so vividly perhaps, but I was in North Carolina during the 1990 election and was a supporter of Harvy Gannt, whom Helms defeated. The TV ad in question showed a man's white hands holding a letter of rejection from an employer. A voice-over asked, (I'm paraphrasing) what you would do if you were told that you were the best candidate for a job, but you were not going to be hired because the employer had to hire a minority instead.

There was no black man in the ad.

[edit] Native Americans

Most native american carry a degree of indian blood card. "They are the only race to have a race card." this is a common saying amoung native peoples. --70.143.40.204 07:31, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

not true, I have never heard of one. I have heard of measuring the Native to Foreigner blood ratio (I myself am half-Native). But, not a degree. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.191.205.78 (talk) 22:25, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Sevenwarlocks 18:39, 12 April 2007 (UTC)