Talk:Queen of Hearts (Alice's Adventures in Wonderland)

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Why is Lewis Carroll denominated as a "mathematician" in this article?

Because he was a mathematics lecturer at Oxford for 26 years - it was his principle occupation. Apepper 11:31, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Can someone get a picture of the Queen of Hearts from the book (John Tenniel's illustration) and/or from the Disney cartoon? I think they would be more beneficial to the article than the current one of Miss Piggy as the QOH. I think both the original drawing and the Disney one are what most people remember.Rt66lt 17:24, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

I've gotten one from the original book.Rt66lt 17:39, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] John Tenniel inspiration for Queen of Hearts image

I've been told that Tenniel based his image of the Queen of Hearts on a stained glass window in Long Melford Church, Suffolk - I took a photograph of the window and this is below:

Queen of Hearts original from Long Melford

To my eyes, it is similar but can anyone provide a citation for this window being used? If so I'll add the image to the article.

Apepper 11:27, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

• On a similar note, under the "Origins" section it says that Sir John Tenniel's illustration was "clearly" based on Queen Victoria, and that Dodgeson/Carroll intended it that way. I have no doubt that there are supposed to be overtones of Queen Victoria in there, but was it really Carroll's decision to make it so? I have no doubt that he had a say in what the illustrations should and should not depict, and which ones should appear in his books, but Tenniel was a celebrated satirist in his day, and I can't help thinking it was more his intention that adults should see the resemblance than Carroll's...

Not050 (talk)Not050Not050 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 20:16, 24 March 2008 (UTC)