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1 Sniper variant
2 Popular culture
3 Questionable comparison
4 Operators
5 Name of this weapon
6 Photos of QBZ-95 family on Xinhua

[edit] Sniper variant

I have seen in many other places the Type 88 sniper rifle listed as the QBU-88, not he KBU-88. Also, it appears that it isn't in the same family as the Type 95 series of rifles, since it looks much more like the QJY-88 5.8mm GPMG. It would appear that it was a separately developed rifle system that also uses the 5.8mm round and have a different purpose from the QBZ-95 family.

Author's Response: The "sniper" system (the barrel is not free-floated, so it's more a designated marksman rifle like the Dragunov) is referenced in the Fortier article as the "KBU-88." Perhaps it's an irregularity in transliteration. Not being literate in Chinese, I am not certain as to which version is the correct one. Given that the "QB" part of the prefix would probably be common to all light rifle designations, it's more likely called the QBU-88. Sinodefence.com uses this designation also. The article has been changed to reflect this. The Fortier article also identifies the K/QBU-88 as part of the 5.8mm "weapons complex."

Though there is little known about these weapons, I did note that the QJY-88 machine gun is not a bullpup design like the QBU-88 "sniper" rifle. This site has a picture, and the belt is fed forward of the trigger assembly. The QBU-88 is a bullpup design like the QBZ-95 is. It's my guess that they're both descended from the general design of the previous Type 81/Type 87 rifle series, though the QBU-88 is a distinct system from the QBZ-95.

I'd have added the maximum effective range but I can't seem to find it when editing. It's 400m and my source is http://www.sinodefence.com/army/individual/rifle_95.asp. You might want to sign your name next time :)--Hellogoodsir 08:08, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Popular culture

I have removed the section on 'popular culture' as it is a completely unrelated topic that does not add anything to knowledge of the firearms itself. If we are talking about the Walther PPK being used by James Bond of the .44 magnum S&W Model 29 as made famous in Dirty Harry then yes it is significant, but lists of appearance in video games and films are not relevant and has been removed from most firearms pages. Please see Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not, specifically Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information for more information. As an alternative, please feel free to add these appearances to the pages List of firearms in films or List of firearms in video games. Deon Steyn 06:10, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Questionable comparison

I have questions about this: "The 5.8 mm round is designed to approximate the wounding effects of the Russian and NATO cartridges. However, Chinese tests using rifles firing the 5.8 x 42 mm shells outperformed existing 7.62 x 39 mm rifles." It's not clear to me just which Russian and NATO cartridges are being compared here, as there have been several standards. If this is a comparison of 5.56 NATO and 5.45 Russian, we should say. If -that's- the case, then, "However ... outperformed 7.62" is a non-sequitur, because it makes it sound as a rejoinder but is comparing a different class of cartridges.--Thatnewguy 16:42, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Do you know any more information about this? This sentence lacks source, it would be difficult to expand it. If we can not find any backup to the claim it might be wise to simply delete it. Yongke 18:54, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Operators

Recently Cambodian soldiers have been seen with QBZ-97's during the rescue/recovery operation after the PMTair Flight 241 crash making Cambodia the second confirmed country after the People's Republic of China to operate the QBZ-95 (and variants) and it's first foriegn operator. Here are two photos from the 'China Defence Blog'. This article is from June 26, 2007. I'm still sort of new to this but it probably should be mentioned like in other assault rifle articles with multiple users so if anybody could add something anout this, I t would really help flesh out this article. http://www.anyboard.net/gov/mil/anyboard/uploads/Cambodian_NQZ-03A_.jpg http://www.anyboard.net/gov/mil/anyboard/uploads/Cambodian_NQZ-03A.jpg url: http://china-defense.blogspot.com/2007/06/1st-foreign-user-of-qbz-95-rifle.html Semi-Lobster 17:08, 5 August, 2007

[edit] Name of this weapon

In Chinese it is referred to "95式自動步槍" which means Type 95 rifle. While the name in the article is correct, it is only a litetal translation, in China soldiers just refer it to 95式. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.17.193.160 (talk) 13:13, 23 April 2008 (UTC)