Talk:Pundit (expert)

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Contents 1 Difference between political pundit and satirical pundit 2 Pundit (politics) and Pundit (Politics) Merge 3 2 quick things 4 Colbert? 5 Bloggers? 6 What? 7 nonsensial redirection 8 List of Pundits 9 Did Bush invent "punditry"?

[edit] Difference between political pundit and satirical pundit

I find it slightly offensive to those who have spent their time achieving a status as a respected figure in political commentary to be group with comedians Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert. Their shows are not shows of political commentary, rather they are shows of political satire. It's ludicrous to put them in the ranks of Bill O'Reilly, Glenn Beck, Nancy Grace and the like. The list, as said below, is extremely arbitrary. If this list stays on the page, there should be a noticeable difference between a comedian and a respected political commentator. --72.208.130.58 (talk) 04:50, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Pundit (politics) and Pundit (Politics) Merge

I support this merge, I can't see any reason not to do this -- its is just a capitlization thing. --Ben Houston 17:09, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

I've done the rough merge with a redirect on the previous article. --Ben Houston 17:14, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 2 quick things

What's the relevance of the following: "Sports commentators and analysts are also commonly referred to as pundits." This article is about political pundits, and there's already a disamb page for "pundit." Second, this article should be merged with political commentator, as that one is a stub and covers the exact same material. - IstvanWolf 01:38, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Actually, the article isn't (meant to be) just about policial pundits - the entry on Pundit reads "Pundit (politics), an expert or opinion-leader, particularly in the field of political analysis" (note the 'particularly'). A move to a slightly less politics-central name may be in order to reduce confusion, but sports pundits and political pundits aren't separate enough to properly warrant separate articles on the different usages of the term. --Sam Pointon 01:49, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

I've moved the page to Pundit (expert). It makes more sense and reflects what is being linked here - a large proportion of links were from sport - and paticularly soccer - realted articles. --Robdurbar 11:17, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Colbert?

I removed Stephen Colbert from the list of pundits. Unless, you want to include Jon Stewart in a list of journalists.

[edit] Bloggers?

I came here wondering if bloggers can be considered pundits. Any thoughts?

[edit] What?

The first sentence of this article makes no grammatical sense.--Halloween jack 16:28, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] nonsensial redirection

“Political commentator” redirects here, but here it says a “pundit” often “partners with a commentator”, so a commentator is not a pundit. Is a political commentator a pundit, or is that a commentator? The redirection makes no sense.—Gniw (Wing) 16:23, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of Pundits

This list of Pundits sections seems a bit arbitrary. Many of the people listed like Tim Russert are primarily journalist and Ann Coulter who is a author. IMO there should be little more conformity.- thank you Astuishin (talk) 00:31, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

In my view (which might not be worth much) the "pundits" are not so much the hosts of these programs (Bill O'Reilly, Glen Beck, Tim Russert) as much as the people that frequently appear on these shows as panelists...people like David Gergen, Carl Bernstein, Susan Estrich, and so forth. "Pundits" are more the professional guests (and usually not office holders or currently serving as hosts of their own programming) that constantly appear on these programs rather than the hosts.72.191.190.68 (talk)

Why is Jon Stewart in the list? He's a comedian. Mtijn (talk) 08:58, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

"A pundit is someone who offers mass-media opinion" Stewart does this. Just because he does it with comedy does not make him any less of a pundit. -Phil5329 (talk) 18:53, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Hm... I don't really think he offers his opinion per se, he just jokes about it and his opinion gets in there. I mean, he's got a big writing staff that writes these things for him. He may have done some real commentary every once in a while, but I think his job revolves mainly around comedy.

I get your point though, I'll leave him in the list and let's see what other people think. Mtijn (talk) 14:39, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Did Bush invent "punditry"?

I've heard that the word "punditry (not "pundit") is a Bushism. Is this true? SteveSims (talk) 05:39, 23 March 2008 (UTC)