Template talk:Psychoactive drugs

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[edit] Languages

I've started taking on the effort to port the div/link portion of the diagram to other languages (based on translations of much older versions of the chart). I don't speak any other languages, so it is slow and difficult work, but I'm hoping it will provide enough of a head start for the people who maintain those pages in their native tongue to complete the translation and link the articles to appropriate places. Last night I did the French version, and next will be the Spanish and Italian versions (when I manage to find some spare time). --Thoric 16:01, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] LSA

LSA is not just like LSD, and in fact we are not sure that LSA is what causes the LSD-like effects of morning glory seeds. The morning glory seed experience has similarities to LSD, but it also has a lot of differences. I don't think it belongs that close to LSD, and it also should be much further to the right. --Thoric 15:41, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

LSA is chemically very similar to LSD, and while the effects may not be identical......they share many similarities (more so than LSA vs any other psychedelic). It's the same thing with shrooms vs lsd.......but even LSA has the chemical similarity that shrooms doesn't have. And from personal experience......they are quite similar except LSD was more intense and visual (but I got a lot of the same auditory enhancement). Zachorious 20:41, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

While morning glory seed experiences have similarities, they tend to include a high level of sedation. LSD, psilocybin and mescaline are definitely not sedating. Hence my suggestion that LSA be shifted to the right. --Thoric 21:00, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

How further right? Near the depressant overlap? Zachorious 21:57, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Somewhere around there seems good, perhaps keeping parallel with LSD to indicate the association. LSA experiences tend to be far more "dreamy" than LSD, although I am very interested in your personal experiences. Erowid's LSA reports are somewhat thin. --Thoric 22:12, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Moved LSA further right, because yes it is sedative in a large percentage of users. Zachorious (talk) 06:49, 21 April 2008 (UTC)