Talk:Psychopathic Records
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I tried to clean up this document by removing the "not so encyclopedic references" like employees etc... But probably most of that information can be moved to the part about the Insane Clown Posse?warpozio 15:57, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)
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[edit] work in progress
the company is 12 years old.. i was intending to come back with others and put in much more to the article.. but moving to a new apartment has delayed that conciderably.
as for employees.. the company is VERY intertwined.. even the grunts have public names, many even get a chance to be in some of the extra songs
InsaneNinja 20:35, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Fanboy.
I want an NPOV tag on this article. It just seems like some little fanboy wrote this article.
- I've added one. It's sometimes NPOV, and I've seen worse, but the tone is far to familiar for an encyclopedia article even when not sounding biased. -- Mikeblas 14:53, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
I believe it's because of the employees section. I'm a Juggalo, and I'd hate to admit it, but I have to agree. Cless 21:56, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] are these actually facts
Doesn't ROH gross more money than JCW?
JCW was second-grossing in 1999 -- before ROH was around. Ogyaf 11:33, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
and Isn't there a controversy over whether rydas actually used stolen beats or beats owned by a approving label?
NO they don't own them they are actually stolen beats if you notice the rydas albums are released under the label joe and joey records and not psychopathic records because they are stolen beats so if the clowns ever get caught they can just drop the label . and thats almost a direct quote from violent j if yall wikipedians want it i can provide the source.
- no retard, he was alleging that the "beats" in question, were approved by the labels that own them. i.e. they got the rights to use the material and then used it, and the whole thing about it being joe & joey records so they can shut it down quick etc. is BS. it's part of their image that they're badass and they "don't give a fuck" etc.. regardless of whether or not they "drop the label" the label still exists/existed and someone's name is on a piece of paperwork somewhere as the owner of that label. so if they got in trouble for stealing beats and got rid of the label, someone associated with them would still get in trouble for it. also don't you think it's a little strange that the RIAA is going after kids for downloading madonna mp3s off of napster, yet they wouldn't do anything about a known "musical" group stealing other people's music and and putting their own lyrics over it(without getting permission from the labels first)? it seems much more likely to me that someone at Psy. paid some royalties and fees to allow the "Rydas" to use this music. it happens all of the time, pop hits get licensed for those BS kids covers albums, why wouldn't Psy. do things legally and avoid lawsuits (which would surely be in court right now, were the beats actually stolen) which they would never get out of? come on now, let's use our brains just a little bit.68.255.173.144 21:31, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
well for one mr juggahoe icp and twiztid have said it many times that there str8 jacked.even j himself confirms it in his book that there jacked dipshit (even the terror wheel cover is str8 jacked from a moby record) why do you think theres nothing official about any of those cds it says shit like wrongs reserved or joe and joey. and beleive me that questions come up at the gathering and they say the same shit. so befor eyou go on your lil "oh im ultra juggalo who knows all" trip check your sources since all you have is speculation 65.123.157.253 05:37, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
- if you want your response to be taken seriously, you should cite a source other than the person who is trying to take your money. like i said it's pretty plain and simple, had they actually stolen the music, some big labels would've tried to go after them by now, and if they did just "drop the label", them or someone they know would still be fined and possibly jailed for copyright infringement. the fact that you just believe anything one of these people says without question is truly sad. "Violent J told me that they were stolen beats" yeah? well OJ said he didn't kill his wife... you believe him?68.76.76.18 16:44, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
yes they are jacked WHY DO YOU THINK non of the albums are sold in stores? there only sold on tour and have no bar code or whatever to avoid such things now major labels simply dont give a fuck about icp why do you think theyve gotten away with it for so long. and oj was tried in a court of law and found not guilty! 65.123.157.253 03:59, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
- well the labels obviously care about theft of music as they're willing to prosecute teenagers for downloading mp3s, and icp stands to actually make money off of the (supposed) stolen music, so "major labels don't give a fuck about icp" really doesn't explain that. they wouldn't care who it was, icp or anyone, if they heard about someone stealing their music they'd prosecute them. even if it was someone that they didn't "give a fuck about". and believe me, they'd know by now. every time someone puts a Nelly track on their mixtape, his label hears about it, and if someone tried pressing and selling those mixtapes without getting permission, the label would sue, and win. why do i think they've gotten away with it for so long? i think that they paid the fees associated with using someone else's music. and the fact that you actually believe that OJ is innocent (along with your lack of english/grammar skills and obvious love for this group) is further evidence of your low IQ. i'd advise you stop responding before you embarrass yourself further.65.43.213.243 19:47, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
well mr english professor sorry to offend your harvord degree but how i spell on a site is no reflection of any thing! and have you actually seen the cds what do you know about the cds 1st before we even continue your stuck on the concept with little other knowledge about them. and millions of people illgealy download and steal everday and go un prosecuted so thats a stupid arguement. and yes there are also millions of people out there who beleive oj is innocent and if he did do it mad fuckin power to him. at any rate please know what your talking about before you enter our world. 65.123.157.253 09:41, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
- a long time ago when i was young and stupid i had psychopathics from outer space (the first one). so yes, i do know what i'm talking about. and yes how you spell is an indication of your general intelligence (or lack there of), then again so is the fact that you listen to anything on Psychopathic Records. and before you say "well you just said you used to" yes i did, when i was a stupid teenager, i also listened to a lot of other horrible music, but once i had matured a bit i realized how stupid that shit was and stopped listening. hopefully someday you'll turn 18 and realize the same thing. oh and in response to your earlier comment about these cds not being carried in stores, i bought my copy of psychopathics from outer space vol 1 from a local record store who also had the first two Rydas albums (which were the only ones out @ the time). and the thing about kids downloading mp3s was a bad argument on my part. the record companies have filed a high-profile case against someone for downloading mp3s to make an example of her and "send a message", but millions of people still do it as you say, and i am fully aware of it. this is a completely different situation though. ICP will profit from the sales of these albums which feature beats created by other musicians who supposedly are not receiving reimbursement for the use of their material. were this actually the case there wold be a lawsuit over it in court right now. if Psychopathic Records owned a cd press (which i highly doubt, but it is possible) ICP could press these cds without outside involvement, thereby avoiding widespread knowledge within the industry of their supposed copyright infringement, but the fact remains that once you make money off of a product containing other artists' work, unless you are paying them royalties, you will be prosecuted. i know that you stated that icp is too under the radar to garner any serious attention from major labels, and regardless of how true that statement may be, nothing is too under the radar for record company lawyers. record company lawyers will seek out and find any signs of copyright infringement, so that they can buy another boat or a new house. for example, if my cousin started selling a mixtape on his website which contained p diddy songs/beats, and he didn't do things legally (with permission & royalties), even if he only sold 2 copies, the copyright lawyers would be demanding that he shut down the website and fore fit all proceeds. So if the Rydas albums do indeed contain "jacked beats", whoever was involved with the pressing of the cds would be prosecuted, and if it was psychopathic, i'm sure that the record company's copyright lawyers would impound their cd press and halt all business proceedings until the trial had resolved itself. one other thing, you stated that the terror wheel cover was "jacked" from a moby record. i found it odd that this was the first i had heard of this so i looked @ all of the moby album, ep & single covers i could find, and came across nothing even slightly resembling the cover of the Terror Wheel EP. if you could find some evidence of this (such as which moby release the cover was stolen from), i'd love to see it. it might even help give your side of the argument some legitimacy.69.213.152.138 05:01, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
Hey, excuse me for butting in to your lovely fuckin' lame ass argument, but did you ever think they pulled a vanilla ice and changed like 2 little beats but didn't tell anyone and the major record labels were like "you know what? fuck it. It's a waste of time and money."
go read "behind the paint" its all in there and no how can you sue something that doesn't exist?
Umm i would like to comment on the guy talking about when he was young and shit...Yea just because you think you're better than everyone else doesn't mean you are. And another thing NOTHING that was or is going to be made by ICP is stupid shit, K? You just don't know what good music is. --Juggalette for life-- —Preceding unsigned comment added by Monoxide Child11107 (talk • contribs) 02:40, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Vanilla Ice?
At Hallowicked 2005 it was claimed by the acts that Rob Van Winkle had signed to Psychopathic Records, was this not true or is he just missing from the list? Chenxlee 21:20, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
→→→→Vannila Ice has long been a Jugglao, and is know to where the hatchetman around, however he himself stated that he WILL NOT return to a rap career, and that he won't sign with any recording labels 66.117.231.244 03:58, 27 July 2006 (UTC)Rev. Sid
I don't know where you heard that from, Vanilla Ice is (as I speak) rapping on tour. The latest rumors also claim his "manager/promoter/whatever" was saying that V-Ice's next album is almost finished and will be released on Psychopathic. Of course that is pure speculation but it is true to fact that Violent J has been trying for YEARS to get Vanilla Ice on Psychopathic. 206.39.111.20 10:58, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
Vanilla Ice has been affiliated with Psychopathic for awhile now.Cless 21:55, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Present
The present section needs to be cleaned up some. I would do it, but some of the stuff written there has boggled my mind because whoever wrote it knows so little about sounding professional.
[edit] Sources
This article desperately needs sources. I've removed most of the stuff that would be subjective and left any not-too-dubious-sounding text in place.
- Blanking the entire artists section was kind of a hatchet-job, don't you think?--Rosicrucian 00:44, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
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Edit this page please!!!
[edit] Ugh.
I'll clean this thing up when I have more time. It's hard to do it now without my books and references. Cless 22:00, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] "Gang Related"
What do you have to say about ICP being gang-related. My teacher belives that all juggalos are gangsters and ICP has no morrals. What do you think?
I BELIEVE YOUR TEACHER IS GAY.
Wikcedclown420 06:09, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
Your teacher is pretty close minded then.--72.64.32.204 00:55, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
- they aren't gang-related, just retarded. and please do not post messages like this. the talk page is for discussing the article and changes to it. i'm sure that there are plenty of "Juggalo" discussion forums where you can talk about these things.68.255.173.144 21:11, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
the person above me has a point... but ima juggalo so fuck em'! Your teacher is just another example of the way a majority of our society is today with choosing to believe that their way of life is the only acceptable one and everyone else is immoral.
I agree with the person above me (the above paragraph). I believe your teacher needs to go play with herself. I am a juggalo, and I am proud of it. ICP has morals, and anyone who says otherwise needs to listen to any one of the joker cards. They are all about the path to shangri la and warnings about hell's pit. Tell me that isn't morals. Your teacher sounds to me like a biggot. She has no basis to make those claims, and that is just not right. Well, I won't say any more cause the person above me said it quite well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.29.222.45 (talk) 15:49, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
I'm a juggalette and i think you should tell your teacher about "Thy Unveiling". Then she MIGHT understand —Preceding unsigned comment added by Monoxide Child11107 (talk • contribs) 02:29, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Psychopathic:The Videos
Hey people, I got bored and just made an article of The DVD so please check it out.Mutlee (talk) 15:54, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Twiztid Juggalos
Just wondering if Twiztid's lack of the word "Juggalo" has any meaning on their The Toxic Terror Tour EP, the last time this happened was on The Green Book (album) and we all know what happened after that album was released. MCL Mutlee (talk) 13:38, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Why is this proposed for deletion?
I can't find the discussion - why is this proposed for deletion? Ilovemyluminaz34 (talk) 06:02, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
Ahh I see - misflagged. I was like wtf Ilovemyluminaz34 (talk) 20:54, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
