Talk:Psychological repression
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psychological suppression needs an article, it links to cencorship!
Should some mention be made (perhaps a separate article) of 'repression' in terms of cultural what-not? Such as suppressing the sexual urge, thinking it wholly 'naughty' ?
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[edit] On fantasies and thought suppression
Re HELP. The tags on top of the article tell the reader to get involved, to help with all kind of things such as spelling, grammar, usage, tone, style, voice, citations etc etc. Well, this reader would love to help but first he'd have to know what this repression thing is all about. A defense mechanism that allows you to stuff unpleasant fantasies into the subconscious? Great, but how do you go about getting a subconscious in the first place? The article mentions Sigmund Freud. So I looked up what he has to say on the subject. No help there. Mr Freud says that there is no such thing as a "subconscious", and that anyone who thinks that there is, ought to have his head examined. Well he says it a bit more politely, but not much. But who knows, the authors of the article may have a different Sigmund Freud in mind, not the old Professor from Vienna but perhaps some Ziggy Freud from the Bronx. Everything possible. - Anyway, can anybody help? --BZ(Bruno Zollinger) 09:49, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
Re DETRIMENTAL. I just realized that we don't have to bother at all about the "subconscious". Repression, the article tells us, is an unconscious mechanism. That must mean, of course, that once you have it in place, everything will take care of itself automatically. The unpleasant fantasies will be headed off at the pass, so to say, and will land in the "subconscious" to be '"held and subdued" there without you even becoming aware of them. I'd give anything to have such a defense mechanism. What I don't understand is how anybody can call such a wonderful thing detrimental. --BZ(Bruno Zollinger) 10:02, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
Re THOUGHT SUPPRESSION. But even people like me who don't have an unconscious repression mechanism will not have to go out in the world without proper armor. For us there is thought suppression, which is entirely conscious and can be managed. Thus, the article tells us, there's never much of a danger that we might one day give in to an impulse to "choke the life out of some idiot who desperately needs it". A good thing, no doubt, but it would even be better if we could use this mechanism to suppress the impulses in the mind of the idiots who want to choke the life out of us. Well, you can't have everything. --BZ(Bruno Zollinger) 09:29, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Re STAGES. In the Primary Repression phase, the article tells us, the infant learns that some aspects of reality are pleasant, and others are unpleasant, and that some are controllable, and others not. Well, that's exactly what my Hector learned as a puppy. And at the end of this phase, he was able to distinguish between desires, fears, self, and others. Exactly like the child mentioned in the article. What's more, all dog owners I know confirm that their dogs have gone through these stages. The phenomenon is also well documented in literature, so if anybody is planning to add a subsection on Repression and Dogs, he'll find ample source material. --BZ(Bruno Zollinger) 09:23, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
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imho supression and repression are of the same nature, and the end result is the same; a manifestation of sympotms that will express the deep inner nature of the hi christions i'm an un wanted klan baby hindu i dont like your chist mass stop taking other sacriments and brian washing i ring the beell myself if someone wasnt there stopping jp2 when he did that was tippically biger than the pope
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- Normal psychological repression, on the other hand, is a universal quality of personality and perception, and is required for proper development to take place. In this context, repression is sometimes spoken of in two stages of personality development, which are progressively involved in the creation of the individual's sense of "self" and "other", of "good" and "bad", and of the aspects of personality called "ego" and "superego".
It's unclear that this passage is referring to something different than the repressed memories of the earlier section, and if not they it is contradictory. It uses Freudian terms, which I'm unconvinced represents a theory that has any support from modern science. Also, it is unreferenced and was tagged as vague. -- Beland 18:52, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
- Note: the degree of support from contemporary science should not be a factor in considering whether material appears in an encyclopedic article or not. The term, especially in its Freudian manifestations, has a history that is as important as any claim to scientific verification. The lack of a citation, on the other hand, is a reasonable criterion. DionysosProteus 14:48, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Proposal to merge with Repressed memory
- Disagree. The general concept of psychological repression does not necessarily include memories. The most common use of this word in psychology is "repressed emotions." While all part of the mechanism of repression, it should have this article to describe the mechanism from a more generic standpoint. Repression its self is a healthy, appropriate and necessary skill for coping and appropriate social and interpersonal behavior (e.g., adhering to social norms). Pathology occurs when its use outlives its usefulness causing harm to emotional, physical, and interpersonal function. This can even be the case when social norms are all or part of the problem. Daniel Santos (talk) 21:07, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
