Talk:Prostitution in Japan

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Contents 1 GHQ/PTA 2 Reference to Enjo kousai 3 GHQ and the law 4 Rename to Sex industry in Japan 5 Remove Redirection from "Japayuki" 6 Illegal but not a crime? 7 Confusing syntax in "War Era" 8 Kara

[edit] GHQ/PTA

• What the heck do these acronyms stand for? Needs to be fixed. --Sgkay 07:21, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

fixedWillowx 09:26, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Reference to Enjo kousai

As the linked article makes clear, the term enjo kousai is specific to dating of high-school girls, rather than a term for prostitution in general (as the current paragraph appears to imply).

[edit] GHQ and the law

GHQ referes to the General HeadQuarters of SCAP (Supreme Commander of the Allied Powers) - MacArthur's Headquarters.

It is my understanding that the Anti-Prostitution law of 1956 was at least partly influanced by the advent of the Tokyo Olympics. Furthermore, the law outlawed almost everything associated with prositution except for actual prostitution. Furthermore, prostitution is strictly defined as genital-genital sex, as far as I understand. Osakadave 19:31, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

Getting closer on the law. [1]

-- I also put in a request for a translation of the Japanese wiki on the Anti-Prostitution Law of 1956. (http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%A3%B2%E6%98%A5%E9%98%B2%E6%AD%A2%E6%B3%95) Osakadave 17:17, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Rename to Sex industry in Japan

This really should be moved to "Sex industry in Japan", which is a better description of the funny but strictly speaking legal business in question. Speak now or forever hold your peace. Jpatokal 12:59, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Remove Redirection from "Japayuki"

The article "Japanese Filipino" has a link to "Japayuki". If you click on that, you are redirected to this article on "Prostitution in Japan". That is both offensive and inaccurate.

As the article "Japanese Filipino" states, "Many are children of thousands of Japayukis who went to Japan mostly as entertainers, helpers, and maids." Some of the Japayukis who were entertainers might have engaged in the sex business, but most were simply hostesses, talking, drinking, and occasionally having meals with male customers. None of the Japayukis were were helpers or maids were at all involved in the sex business!

The redirection from "Japayuki" to "Prostitution in Japan" should be deleted due to its inaccuracy and offensive nature. JKaki00 09:20, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Furthermore, this article doesn't explain what a japayuki is. Therefore the redirect serves no purpose beyond inuendo. So yes. Remove it. Ireneshusband 19:45, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

"Japayuki" simply means a foreign worker who has gone to Japan (Japa = Japan, Yuki = To Go). Even foreign men working in manual labor could be and are called Japayuki, so this redirection is totally out of line.

It's too bad that, although I complained about the factual inaccuracy of this redirection in March and Irene's Husband also agreed that this was inappropriate innuendo in June, the redirection to this page from "Japayuki" still continues. I think this is totally contrary to all basic principles of Wikipedia and detracts from the supposedly unbiased and neutral nature of the Wikipedia site. Jkaki00 16:19, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

So instead of harping on about it, why not fix it? You could remove the redirect at least, and better replace it with a meaningful article or stub. Akihabara 12:26, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Let's face it, the Japanese government tried to abolish an old Japanese custom and merely succeeded in diverting it to new areas and into new forms. 204.52.215.107 (talk) 03:21, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

America learned the same lesson with Prohibition back in the 1920s - that led to the rise of speakeasies. 204.52.215.107 (talk) 03:22, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Illegal but not a crime?

The article was changed to read: "The Anti-Prostitution Law of 1956 made practicing prostitution illegal, but not a crime. It did prohibit the following with penal regulations: soliciting for purposes of prostitution..." This is non-sensical, at least in English, so I've reverted. Jpatokal 05:42, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Article 3 of Anti-Prostitution Law is "No person may either do prostitution or become the customer of it", and penalties of soliciting for purposes of prostitution, procuring a person for prostitution, ..., and the furnishing of funds for prostitution, are described in following articles. If the phrase "illegal, but not a crime" is non-sensical, how do we describe this? "(The law) did not make practicing prostitution illegal" is misguiding. --NobuoSakiyama 15:34, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Ah, so you mean that the act of prostitution is illegal, there's just no punishment for it? That's very strange. boggle Jpatokal 05:56, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Confusing syntax in "War Era"

In the section titled "War Era" is this passage: "Some of them received more than full general for inflation in area of risk." Can anyone translate this into English? It makes no sense as it stands. Bricology 18:27, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kara

Is there a source for karayuki covering Korea as well? The character 唐 for kara literally means "Tang Dynasty", and is (AFAIK) a traditional reference only for China. Jpatokal (talk) 08:25, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

The Chinese character is irrelevant; the Japanese word kara has been used since the times of the most ancient Japanese texts to refer to China, Korea, or even more generally to all of what we might call "Asia" nowadays. The word kara is supposed to have some relationship with 加羅 Kara, which is one form of the name of Gaya, an ancient country located on the Korean Peninsula. Ebizur (talk) 01:01, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Here's more information on Japanese kara, courtesy of 三省堂国語辞典 (Sanseidō's Dictionary of the Japanese Language):

から 1 【唐/▼韓/▽漢】

(1)中国や朝鮮。また、外国。

「―天竺(てんじく)」

(2)中国や朝鮮の、中国や朝鮮から伝わった、舶来のなどの意の複合語を作る。

「―芋」「―織り」「―櫛笥(くしげ)」

As you may see, kara may be written with any of the three characters 唐 ("Táng"), 韓 ("Hán" of Korea), or 漢 ("Hàn" of China). In Standard (Tokyo) Japanese, it is pronounced as /ka.ra/ with the accent (which in Japanese means a slightly higher pitch) on the /a/ in the first syllable of the word. As for its meaning, it may refer to "(1) China and/or Korea. Also, any foreign country or foreign countries," as in kara tenjiku (all the foreign countries of the world, exotic and faraway lands; [literally] Kara(=China/Korea) and Tenjiku(=India)), or to "(2) [as an element of compounds] of China and/or Korea, having been transmitted via China and/or Korea, having been introduced by ship from overseas, etc." Ebizur (talk) 22:01, 20 April 2008 (UTC)