Talk:Proclamation of Ukrainian Independence

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When I first read the title I thought it would be about the events of 1990-91. I think the title needs to be more precise. It could be Proclamation of Ukrainian Statehood or Act of Proclamation of Ukrainian Statehood according to the actual name of the act. It should not be confused with Act of Declaration of Independence of Ukraine and Declaration of State Sovereignty of Ukraine. --Greggerr (talk) 03:59, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Better yet, use the version established in English, which according to the 1987 source cited in the article is "The Restoration of the Ukrainian State in World War II". --Riurik(discuss) 06:05, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
I agree with Riurik on that. By saying World War II in the title a year isn't needed either. Narking (talk) 20:06, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

The big English-language histories:

  • Subtelny 1988:463 "...to proclaim, on 30 June 1941, the establishment of a Ukrainian state..."
  • Magocsi 1996:626 "...proclaimed in L’viv the existence of a sovereign Ukrainian state. Stets’ko managed to obtain support for the ‘new state’ from a Council of Seniors..."; "The akt of 30 June 1941, as the proclamation of the Ukrainian state came to be known..."
  • Yekelchyk 2007:141 "...OUN-B activists in the city proclaimed the creation of an independent Ukrainian state. ... demanded that they withdraw the declaration of independence."

I think the title ought to include state or statehood rather than independence, reflecting "derzhava". "Restoration" is part of the title, which was a statement of the akt's intent, but it is not a historical description of the event. I think this Wikipedia article is about the event, not just the document.

I suggest Proclamation of Ukrainian statehood, 1941, to help identify it to all readers when the title appears out of context, e.g., in category pages, article listings, etc. —Michael Z. 2008-05-09 04:53 z