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Who makes Pro Tools? For what platforms is it available?

Perhaps someone could add info on where a new user could learn how to use pro tools. --unknown

This information is online and in the DVD you get when you buy pro-tools --Tm1000 03:16, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

Perhaps someone could remove all the marketing bullshit from this article, make it more sober? Agreed!

The "For Dummies" series of books are outstanding. I used "Pro Tools for Dummies" to learn Pro Tools 6.x on an original MBox. Great book!

The whole User Group thing seems like an advertisement. Should it be deleted? Q90 23:44, 8 November 2006 (UTC)


Contents

[edit] Alsihad redirect without explanation

I've noticed that someone's cunningly redirected the Alsihad article to the ProTools article... For those who are unaware of this reference and association, some more information and historical references should be provided imo - but by someone who is better-informed than I am! I agree with the Alsihad sentiment personally, I have to use ProTools in my daily life and I'm quite firmly within the cynical camp ;) but for many people it would just be lost on them. So, I suppose one could consider this an RFI on the connotation and reference. Also consider Mixerman's diaries, and places like the ProSoundWeb forums where PT/Alsihad is discussed at great length.

Christopher 14:59, 3 January 2007 (UTC)


>I can add it. However, I'd rather not, Its hard to cite the information. Alsihad is a reference from the book The Mixerman Diaries (an E-Book Version is availible for free). Who refers to protools in the novel as Alsihad. The author him self is anonymous, to the general public. However, the term is used by many professional recording engineers familiar with book, and author, and is familiar to most who are active in the professional/semi professional online Pro-audio community.


The term Alsihad refers to the debate about the analog medium v.s digital recording medium. Protools due to the limited power of computer in their initial introduction, was the first viable digital recording platform, since it initially used its own internal computing power, instead of a computers processing power (professional protools systems) still do. Many engineers feel that Tape medium is preferrable to digital medium, because tape has its own sonic characteristics, and protools encourages over editing, since its easier to edit than tape, and therefore also encourages poor performances. This explanation is significant, because the term Alsihad is a play on the word. All I had, "I wanted to use Tape, however, Protools was All's I had (ALL'SIHAD=ALSIHAD).

128.189.171.56 06:21, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New updates to the "on culture" section

I've started making some large scale changes to the section that was called "Pro Tools in culture". I'll be continuing and finishing this edit by the end of the week (Feb. 11, 2007). In this section I'm trying to illustrate some of the ways that Pro Tools helped to encourage shifts in digital technology, economics, IT, politics, and possibly several other areas. I understand that to most people it seems like just another software package but I'm confident that I can show here that it bears some responsibilty, both directly and indirectly, for where we find our larger culture today. Please don't be put off by unfinished sentences, etc. All will be fixed very quickly.

Neilperry 04:54, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

I have continued substantial editing of this section and renamned it "The Impact of Pro Tools on Culture". I've cleaned up from last night's post and am on track to finish for the weekend.--Neilperry 04:19, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Added subsections to the "Impact on culture" section.Neilperry 02:10, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Academic Award"?

Digidesign received a technical Academic Award for the development of Pro Tools in 2004.

Was this meant to say Academy Award? What's an "Academic Award" and why does it link to the Academy Award page anyway? Clarification needed. Inoculatedcities 18:14, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

I changed this to "Academy Award of Merit" which is what the Digidesign website says it is. Academic makes no sense. Bufflo 22:49, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Criticism

It should be added that there has been criticism of Pro Tools in particular by many musical artists because of its uncanny ability to make really nasty-sounding music sound a lot better than it really is:

   "It sounds like you're ready to, cause these rappers are terrible
   And the game is unbearable but Imma fix, fix
   This feeling that's dead in you got your brains like a vegetable
   Use the Pro Tools and tell em to edit it, it"
   -- Chamillionare, "The Sound of Revenge (intro)" The Sound Of Revenge

I might be able to find other examples

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[edit] Ronaldo Cezar de Moraes

coleguinha, gente boa amarrado, solto nao vale nada —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.144.75.5 (talk) 15:36, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Issues

Some of this article is really, really good. A lot of it isn't. Just made a couple minor edits, may try to re-work some things over the next few days. Things I'm noticing:

1) It's still not well-sourced; part of the issue seems to be that the main sources of info on Pro Tools are either DigiDesign's site (already cited) and various audio recording forums on the internet, which consist of about 2% actual information, 49% Pro Tools evangelism, and 49% Pro Tools bashing, none of which is verifiable or notable anyway. I'm looking for good sources; if anybody else finds something reliable in a 3rd party publication, please, please add it!

2) Super-listcrufty; does this article really need the model numbers for every single product that works with ProTools?

3) The need for special hardware to run the high-end PT versions is something that's frequently cited as a reason to pick a different DAW; I'm working on trying to include this in a non-ranty, reliably-sourced fashion. evildeathmath 16:10, 5 June 2008 (UTC)