Talk:Privacy International
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[edit] Copyright
I notice that the entry for Privacy International in Wikipedia has been replaced with a copyrightt infringement warning.
Please note that Privacy International has given the Wikipedia user permission to use this material for the updated entry. I am not sure how matters should proceed from this point, but I would certainly appreciate the article being reinstated.
Best wishes
Simon Davies Director Privacy International
simon@privacy.org
- I've reinstated the page. --bjh21 18:00, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
[edit] thanks
Many thanks -bjh21. Much appreciated.
SD
[edit] Big Brother Awards
The Big Brother Awards (and The Winston Awards) needs to be mentioned. 129.241.11.200 12:38, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
I have removed "It should however be noted that Privacy International is not an inpartial organisation, much of the information they distribute is opinionated." This is unnecessary as the piece already stipulates that the organisation is coming from a human rights perspective, and sounds somewhat hostile. Simon Davies
[edit] Privacy index
The colors of the Privacy index and it's legend are misleadingly out of sync. 213.47.89.126 10:07, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] "less unflattering"
In the paragraph talking about Microsoft and Google. A double-negative? Is there any reason why, if only for clarity's sake, this shouldn't be changed to read "more flattering"? 194.128.66.118 10:08, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
- I've actually just gone and made the change. Someone can always revert it if there's a specific reason for the clunky double-negative. 194.128.66.118 10:21, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] New rankings for 07
PI have released new rankings.
http://www.privacyinternational.org/article.shtml?cmd[347]=x-347-559597
Whoever did them nice tables and the map (or someone else who have done similar things) might have interest in updating :) --Joffeloff (talk) 21:51, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
http://www.privacyinternational.org/article.shtml?cmd[347]=x-347-559597 - For the link to work copy and paste all of it, including the number bit at the end. Bsrboy 00:58, 15 March 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bsrboy (talk • contribs)
- Because wikipedia cannot correctly link the URL to PI's 2007 document (I have asked for advice at Template talk:Citation) I have used WebCite to create an archive here: http://www.webcitation.org/5XpxPOdbb
- Here is the full cite as suggested by WebCite:
- Privacy International. Leading surveillance societies in the EU and the World 2007. 2008-05-15. URL:http://www.privacyinternational.org/article.shtml?cmd[347]=x-347-559597. Accessed: 2008-05-15. (Archived by WebCite® at http://www.webcitation.org/5XpxPOdbb) - World Map, Table and key aspects per country
- Full address is Privacy International, 6-8 Amwell Street, Clerkenwell, London EC1R 1UQ UK.
- -84user (talk) 15:54, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
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- User Fullstop gave me this good fix for linking to these kinds of difficult URLs:
- Rotenberg, Marc, ed. (2007), “Leading surveillance societies in the EU and the World 2006”, Privacy and Human Rights 2006, London: Privacy International (this is the 2006 direct link, it seems to be the 2006 edition published in late 2007)
- User Fullstop gave me this good fix for linking to these kinds of difficult URLs:
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- Leading surveillance societies in the EU and the World 2007, London: Privacy International, 2007-12-28 (this is the 2007 direct link with "The 2007 International Privacy Ranking")
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- Leading surveillance societies in the EU and the World 2007, London: Privacy International, 2007-12-28, <http://www.webcitation.org/5XpxPOdbb> (this is the WebCite archive 2007 link)
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- (I commented out the editor for 2007 because I could not find one) The trick is to replace any problem characters with their hexadecimal equivalents. The template does not have an accessdate parameter which could be a problem with websites that change their contents. -84user (talk) 21:00, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
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- User Fullstop has assisted me further here and suggested I use the editors of the series, like this:
- Davies, Simon & Banisar, David, eds. (2007), “Map of surveillance societies around the world”, Leading surveillance societies in the EU and the World 2007, London: Privacy International, <http://www.privacyinternational.org/survey/rankings2007/map.jpg>
- -84user (talk) 23:47, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
- User Fullstop has assisted me further here and suggested I use the editors of the series, like this:
[edit] Archive of World Rankings?
The article states PI has issued reports since 1997 and gives a table and cite for 2006 (someone has linked 2007 above). I do not doubt this, and would like to see some history on how rankings have changed. I got as far back as 2000, (the internet archive has links to January 1999 but I got connection failures). I gave up digging much further, so if anyone thinks these are useful, here are some links:
- EPIC/PI - Privacy & Human Rights 2000, overview, country reports but no ranking
- Privacy & Human Rights 2001, table of contents and link to this downloadable PDF
- Privacy & Human Rights 2002, table of contents and links to report in three parts: part 1, part2 and part 3
- Privacy and Human Rights 2003, web site with contents, html sections, and this September 2003 Global Data Protection Map by David Banisar - I used archive.org because current 2003 page has this May 2007 map!
- phr2004 - it redirects to a difficult URL containing a reports 2002 to 2006, and an unlinkable 2006 World map from the Daily Telegraph November 2, 2006.
URLs ending in phr2005 through to phr2008 result in various server error responses.
List of maps from archive.org's archive of Data Protection map (it changes even when the html page doesn't):
- April 2004
- August 2002 (archive is April 2003 but map labelled August 2002)
- September 2003 archived at November 2003
- April 2004 archived June 2005
- April 2005 archived November 2005
- the October 2006 archive link gave a file location error
- September 2006 archived November 2006
- September 2006 archived February 2007
- the 19 February 2006 archive link gave a file location error
- September 2006 archived April 2007
The two accessible February 2007 maps are otherwise bitwise identical with the last, April 2007, map.
Things I noticed:
- archive.org, while useful, does not always contain all the old pages, and suffers frequent connection failures (and they respond to requests to remove information from the archive)
- not all web sites archive their own documents reliably
- PI uses redirects which may change in the future, increasing the importance of reliable archives
- WebCite looks possibly useful for producing additional archives

