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[edit] Not a European problem

My understanding is that this is mostly an American problem, and these things do not happen in Good Old Europe. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 156.111.84.180 (talk • contribs) 07:29, July 15, 2003 (UTC

Whatever. Ask any Turkish inmate about custodial rape being a mostly 'American' problem. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.230.102.76 (talk) 08:18, March 20, 2005 (UTC)
Midnight Express was not a documentary Mzzl 07:39, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Ouch! :) - Jacottier 01:04, May 6, 2005 (UTC)
That's because solitary confinement is the norm in Europe: one inmate per cell --Mzzl 18:04, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
American prisons are overcrowded, Europe, being a nation of higher standards runs their prisons like a hotel, with computers and carpets. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.228.69.178 (talk) 21:25, October 26, 2006 (UTC)
Europe is one nation? News to me... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 63.27.203.170 (talk) 03:45, 22 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Does this happen in female prisons also?

Is it possible to get a mention in this article about whether or not this happens in female prisons? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.3.160.7 (talk) 11:15, September 2, 2005 (UTC

Yes it happens in female prisons too. However, in female prisons rape among prisoners is secondary to rape of prisoners by gaurds. That also happens in male prisons, too, BTW, and along with consentual sex and masturbation, has been left out of the article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 63.27.203.170 (talk) 03:47, 22 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] NPOV problems

This article takes a drastic switch after the first paragraph. Rarely is the approach taken in other articles that is taken here - a "setting aside another viewpoint." It sounds bad and makes the article seem inconsistent. In addition, the bit about human nature and animal-based archetypes should be either re-worded or better investigated and cited - the phrase it's "human nature" is an absurdity. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.148.243.249 (talk) 00:33, December 18, 2005 (UTC)

I agree with the NPOV problems. This article seems very biased. For instance, "Consent in prison" is argued to be inherently illusory." Even if that is true, I feel the article should start out less argumentative.
Xiphoris 21:48, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
I also agree insofar as it's NPOV issues. I'm currently too fried to really add much to the conversation, or article but some quick googling has produced this article on the topic, which does make reference to voluntary same-sex relations between inmates. It references a study, which I have not been able to find, called: "An ethnosemantic study of the culture of prison sexuality". Since I haven't read the study, or checked out its sources, I'm not parituclarly inclined to use it as a source. However, would it make a decent external link? --Scandalous 06:40, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The article's title

The article seems to be mainly about sexual abuse between males in prison. Not only are we missing some pieces about women prisons, but I also think that the article's title is misleading and wrong. It would be better to just name it Sexual abuse in Prison, since in my view Sexual abuse is not about sexuality. The article clearly states that the abuse occuring very often has nothing to do with the Prioners' sexuality. ❝Sverdrup❞ 13:34, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

If the focus is to remain in that direction, perhaps, but I feel that the topic of Prison Sexuality itself should be dealt with, and this article would be the appropriate place to do so. --Scandalous 06:43, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Bubba"

See Talk:Bubba. - 70.109.72.185 23:37, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Low quality

This whole article is just a very condensed, slightly inaccurate, summary of the No Escape website. No Escape is a good page, but only a Male Prisoner Rape awareness site; this article should cover historical, international, male and female prison sexuality (prisoner-to-prisoner rape, guard-to-prisoner rape, and voluntary). It needs many more sources... honestly it would be better to remove what's there and let us start over IMO. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.158.187.109 (talk) 11:13, July 6, 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. As is, this article is extremely un-encyclopedic. 207.6.31.6

[edit] Voluntary arrangements not mentioned

There didn't seem to be a mention of how some of the "victims" enter into an arangement with a "rapist" willingly in order to procure protection from the prison population.--Johnnyarbogast 23:12, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merger with Prison rape

Prison Rape and Prison Sexuality should probably be merged together, as much of the info is repeated and prison sexuality is basically about prison rape. Justinmeister 07:16, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

It Should because it ecplains the same things!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.8.79.71 (talk) 23:43, December 16, 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ethnocentric article

This article totally only looks at the american viewpoint, here. No world view. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.167.48.192 (talk) 13:35, January 7, 2007 (UTC)

Agree, and the article is still poorly referenced.--ChrisJMoor 02:08, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ive reviewed this article and...

Having been in prison (TDCJ), I can verify most of this as being reliable, although (no, really) the percentage of rape seems a bit high. I was on several different prison units and I assure you the people who were getting it there was because they wanted it. This page could use some cleaning up though its a bit messy IMO. I am considering adding a section on guard-offender relationships, although this isn't in the article it is imperative to ones understanding of prison sexuality and it occurs more often than people know. Species2112 16:25, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Although as someone said earlier, this mainly reflects an american view on the subject... Would be nice to get someone who has been in prison in a foreign country possibly to add a subsection on observations or experiences in other countries.Species2112 16:37, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DO NOT merge this article with prison rape, it is not the same thing.

If anything make prison rape a redirect to this article, as it is more comprehensive and covers a broader scope of things to be considered with prison rape.Species2112 16:35, 2 April 2007 (UTC)