Talk:Prima facie

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[edit] Unclear Wording

I find the second sentence here confusing:

If the prosecution were to fail to introduce such evidence, then its case would fail on grounds of "failure to make out a prima facie case," even without rebuttal by the defendant. This evidence need not be conclusive or irrefutable, and evidence rebutting the case may not be considered.

What does "this evidence" refer to in the second sentence? The evidence that the prosecution "fails" to introduce? Why is the second sentence referring to "evidence rebutting the case", when the case already "failed"?

It would appear than some re-writing is needed here--and I don't have the expertise to do it.

128.175.13.136 13:19, 19 March 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Pronunciation

Is it worth adding a paragraph to the effect that in Commonwealth English this is pronounced prime-a face-y but that in the US it is pronounced pre-ma fas-sha? Avalon 22:28, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

That would not typically be information found in an encyclopedia. It would, however, be an excellent addition in Wiktionary and we should probably cross-link the two entries. Rossami (talk) 02:43, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

How is this word pronounced?

That would be an excellent question to look up in a dictionary. See wikt:prima facie#Pronunciation for the answer (where, by the way, you will see that there are two approved pronunciations). Rossami (talk) 13:16, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Can this word be used in the beginning of a sentence? Tapas

Prima Facie can be totally used at the beginning of a sentence. GoneAFK

[edit] Prima facie in non-legal situations

User:Radagast83 recently added the text below to the opening section of the article. On first reading, it does not appear to be directly relevant to the legal concept being described in this article. I'm bringing the content here temporarily so that we can more carefully consider where and how the content should be integrated into the article. (I did not copy over the first paragraph that Radagast83 added because it was redundant with content already in the opening section.) Rossami (talk) 13:35, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

When applied to deontological philosophy, prima facie obligations are those obligations to society that require action, or at least a response on your part. For instance, the obligation to save a blind person from accidentally crossing a busy intersection, when you have the ability to stop the probable ensuing accident, should be a reason enough to act in such a way as to save the blind pedestrian.
In any given situation, any number of prima facie obligations may apply, and in the case of an ethical dilemma, they may even contradict one another. The maximization of good is only one of several prima facie obligations which play a role in determining the content of the moral ought (moral obligation) in any given case. W. D. Ross gives a list of other such obligations, which he does not claim is all-inclusive.

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