Talk:Presidents' Trophy

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[edit] "Editing Pre-Playoffs"

What rationale constitutes not posting updates to The Trophy before the Stanley Cup Playoffs have finalized? The President's Trophy is an award independent from the Stanley Cup and is won before the playoffs begin, and is sometimes regarded a greater achievement than the Cup. Seeing as it's usually clinched before the end of the regular season, I recommend updating the page when it has been awarded and not after the Stanley Cup has been awarded. Associating the two implies not only a synonymous relationship between the Trophy and the Cup, but also that the season isn't over until the Cup is awarded. Keep in mind - it's The Stanley Cup Playoffs, not The NHL Playoffs.75.143.209.242 (talk) 09:02, 5 April 2008 (UTC)James

If you had actually checked the page, you would have seen that it was updated. But, WP:HOCKEY policy is to wait until the end of the regular season to update stats. -- Scorpion0422 14:57, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] "NHL League Champions"

The League chose unfortunate terminology when they picked this particular language to allow teams to display in their arenas. The article has been edited to make note of the Stanley Cup Champion "technically" being the league champion all those years. Is this entirely accurate? I took the League's choice of language to be highlighting the fine distinction between winning the NHL "League" Championship (the one the league as an institutional entity can award) and the Stanley Cup Championship, which is in some sense external to the NHL (since it predates the league's inception and officially has its own trustees). I realize this is operating at a relatively high level of abstraction and in reality may not make much of a difference, but I am just questioning whether we know enough about this theoretical concern to say with confidence that the Stanley Cup winners those years were "technically" the league champion.

[edit] Pre-Presidents' Trophy

Whatever happened to the useful listing of the top regular season finishers before the inception of the Presidents' Trophy? I can think of no better place to put that information and cannot understand why it was deleted. MrArticleOne (talk) 22:45, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

I agree that the pre-Presidents' Trophy era league-leaders should be listed on this page, for the sake of convenience. At least a link to another page that lists them would be nice.Fofe510 (talk) 02:53, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

The reason we decided not to display pre-Trophy winners is because several other trophies were previously given to the team with the top NHL record, for example the Prince of Wales Trophy from 38 to 67. -- Scorpion0422 02:58, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
That's a good rationale to have a cross-reference, not to eliminate the list. The Presidents' Trophy currently goes to the team that finishes with the best overall record. If there was 1 place I would guess to look to find the list of teams that achieved that distinction in prior years, it would be on the Presidents' Trophy page. Much like I would anticipate being able to find the players that led the league in goal scoring at the Rocket Richard Trophy page. MrArticleOne (talk) 18:57, 5 April 2008 (UTC)