Talk:Predestination in Islam

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Contents 1 reorganized article 2 merge 3 Kismet 4 I don't understand it 5 Highly inaccurate

[edit] reorganized article

The intro was way too long, as the tag indicated. It was also unreferenced. Also, much of the grammar was questionable. In addition, it really did not deal with qadar, but instead with the subject of criteria for something being aqidah or not. Thus, I created a subheading called 'Problems with Qadr as Aquidah' under the concept section. I also edited much of the text I moved, as I found it to be very conversational and used far too much of the second person. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Meson537 (talk • contribs) 11:05, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] merge

Qadar has been merged into Qadr (doctrine), the only thing left is to make Qadar into a redirect. The reason Qadr (doctrine) is preferable is that the correct transliteration is "Qadr", per Al-Qadr (sura) and Laylat al-Qadr. --Striver 02:01, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

As Qadr (doctrine) now redirects to Qadar (doctrine) nstead, I'm simply going to move the page. ɱўɭĩє^{What did I do}_wrong 20:34, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kismet

Is the doctrine of Qadr distinct from the idea of kismet? Should kismet link here? Pirate Dan 15:22, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I don't understand it

Which is the true Islamic stance? Do we have a free will or not? And if we don't have, why would Allah punish us for our sins? Aminullah 08:52, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

"The phrase reflects a Muslim doctrine that God has measured out the span of every person's life, their lot of good or ill fortune, and whether they will follow the straight (righteous) path or not[4][5]." This statement is inaccurate, IMO. Kadir has moe to do with how Allah is the master of all endings.

[edit] Highly inaccurate

Most of the descriptions are quite innacurate. Funnily enough, my edit with references was reverted - i wonder why. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.104.39.44 (talk) 02:46, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

That is sure correct. Someone needs to pick up an Islam 101 book and fix this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.194.243.180 (talk) 04:52, 17 October 2007 (UTC)