Talk:Pre-existence

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Pre-existance in Sufism

Although a vague idea of pre-existance can be extracted from various Sufi writings the beliefs mentioned in the article are not beliefs of all sufis , please mention which branches of Sufism hold these beliefs , thanks Pasha Abd 20:20, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Beforelife

The top of the pre-existence page suggests that the article might be merged with Beforelife, but the latter article doesn't exist.

[edit] Merge

I agree that this should be merged. There is no reason to keep this a separate article. Str1977 (smile back) 12:36, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] POV

The bit about NDEs at the bottom is very non-NPOV, as it seems to offer an opinion that "NDEs offer a premonition of the afterlife". 212.84.96.86 23:52, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] LDS Doctrines

I've added a paragraph in brackets explaining some things that people would probably not otherwise know, and helping them to understand how the modern LDS Church probably sees things. If it is not desirable to have that there in brackets (I'm fine with it being there like that) then if someone could re-write the article there incorporating this information (or at least without making it seem like the modern LDS church changed the doctrines from how they used to be (as they do not believe this), then that would be great. Shoreu 07:19, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jewish Pre-mortal Life and Immortal Souls

I would really like to see some sources on the Jews not believing in a pre-mortal life and immortal souls before the Greeks and whatever. Is this knowledge, or just knowledge that there are no current records of such suitable for such a claim in an encyclopedia fit for all denominations? Basically, I want to know if there is anything in Jewish records that specifically refutes the possibility; specifically, I want to know about records that took place during times when the Jews followed the then living prophets of the Bible. Anyway, the Old Testament does not seem to refute the possibility; in fact, it seems to support it, to me. Also, does Jews in this context refer just to those from the tribe of Judah, or does it refer to all of the house of Israel and the ancestors of Jacob (Isaac, Abraham, etc.)? Shoreu 07:39, 10 July 2007 (UTC)