Talk:Pradal Serey

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Reviewed version: November 18, 2006


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[edit] citation question

I'm really not sure how to cite references so I am putting that info here. In the pradal serey today section, there are two requests for citations, one regarding bayon tv fights the other regarding CTN's kun khmer championship tv series. there are mentions to both here: http://www.paddysgym.com/news/, with links to photos of both fights at bayon tv stadium (http://www.paddysgym.com/photos/main.php?g2_itemId=179), and ma serey and eh phoutang under a kun khmer championship banner taken at the press conference (http://www.paddysgym.com/photos/main.php?g2_itemId=93) announcing the show. hope that helps, and apologies if this is the wrong format or in the wrong place. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PPGrasshopper (talk • contribs) 02:49, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] more info?

What else should i put?Ifire 03:26, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

well, we don't have any source that says he is of khmer ancestory,only that he can speak khmer,so that thing you put up might be controversary since we dont have complete source that states that.only strong evidence that you can assume he is khmer. o yea sign your name when you wriete here.Ifire 20:40, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Differences?

What is the main difference between Muy Tai and Pradal Serey? Also, how does Pradal Serey relate to Muay Boran?

Muay means one in khmer and boran means ancient. South east Asian kickboxing basically just have diffrent style and emphasized diffrent techniques and attack depending on the region of orgin. There are also sub-categories of diffrent styles depending on the school and region of that country. The main diffrence are their country of orgin and moves popular there. For example, Kung fu is divded into Northern and Southern style base on the techniques emphasized and divided further into diffrent styles because of the schools. Although, Muay Thai and Pradal Serey use practically similar rules,but if you watch the matches their attacks are carried out diffrently.Ifire 20:24, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Disambiguation

There is a link to [[Development]] on this page that is linking to a disambiguation page. I'm not sure which (if any) of the more specific pages on types of development would be a better link in this context. Could someone please review the choices available and either re-direct the link or delete it? Thanks.Chidom talk  09:12, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pradal Serey fighters vs Muy Thai fighters

Not that there really is too much of a difference in style, but are there any available online records of fights between the two?

[edit] Failed GA Nomination

This article was listed as a GA nominee by Figer (talk · contribs) on 7 October 2006 (see [1]), but no {{GAnominee}} tag was given in this talk page. So I assume that indeed this article was nominated and the user forgot to put this tag.

As of 7 October 2006, I'm making a speedy failing for good article, because this article is totally unsourced, per WP:WIAGA. Please read again WP:CITE to conform the three pillars of Wikipedia: verifiability, neutral point of view and no original research. I've put {{Unreferenced}} tag in the aritcle, but please do not feel it as discouraging. Please take a time to include reliable sources before putting this article for GA nomination. Please also read what is Good Article guideline. If this matter has been resolved, you may renominate this article back. Cheers. — Indon (reply) —

I have failed the renomination. There are now some citations, but nowhere near enough. The article is also insufficiently broad in coverage to be promoted e.g. How is the sport organised? Is it promoter led like boxing, or are there tournaments? The closest type of article to this to have good or featured status is Sumo, maybe that article could give some ideas for structure and layout. The list of notable Khmer boxers does not establish criteria for inclusion, how does the reader know they are notable? Oldelpaso 10:55, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
It's going to be a while before this article can actually be considered good. There is not much information regarding Pradal Serey. Whatever you can find online comes from editorials, discussion forums, and other biased articles. There isn't a reliable source that has published any information on Pradal Serey, not as far as I know. What is mostly known is by word of mouth. --Cantharellus 01:15, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Format

Is there a reason why the History section was move before the Rules section? If not I would like to revert back to the old format.ATTFFX (talk) 07:41, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

I am not the editor who made the move, but I agree that the History section should indeed stay before the Rules section. There are a few reasons for this. Firstly, it is consistent with the format of Wikipedia's other articles on martial arts (see Hapkido and Aikido, for example). Secondly, if this is to be a true "encyclopedia", the emphasis of these articles should be the academic study of the topics, not a how-to guide. Consequently, the history, influences, and comparison with other martial arts is more important than the current rules for organized competition. --William Thweatt Talk | Contribs 14:57, 19 February 2008 (UTC)