Talk:Portamento

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[edit] move pitchbending to glissando?

There has been talk of merging with glissando, an article in much need of reorganization. Will anyone mind moving the pitchbend secftion over there, keeping the two narrower definitions on this page? Sparafucil 06:03, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] ornament?

I flagged the ornamentation section, not finding reference to portamento in the Harvard Dictionary or Schoenberg's Counterpoint. If it is a real term, it would be useful to define it closely and perhaps add an example. Sparafucil 05:05, 10 June 2007 (UTC) Great! I see Gaudlin at the bottom of the page and have removed the tag. A definition or better an example would still be nice. Sparafucil 06:03, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

_{[[Media:== Headline text == aevbvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv the Pitch Bending section here. It was placed in a manner such that it obfuscated the clarinet-to-Rhapsody In Blue segué, and grammatically screamed "English as a second language." I didn't see that it would actually add anything to the article, else I would have merely moved it to a place where it would be appropriate.}

_{I think it was just a Heifitz fan, trying to say "Classical violinists use Portamento too, not just jazz, see?", but the fact that the term is in Italian in the first place pretty much implies that it's used in Classical music.}

_{Infinity Squared 05:31,]]} 26 August 2006 (UTC)

I thought that portamento referred to the vocal technique, while glissando is the instrumental one. LorenzoB 07:49, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

This article disagrees with the Glissando article; the glissando page refers to "true glissando" which is identical to the definition of portamento presented here, as well as "simulated glissando" which is what the portamento article calls simply "glissando".

Also, trombonists do not call portamento "slurring", they call it "glissing"; the trombone is not capable of a true slur, and must simulate slurs by lightly tonguing while changing notes, as opposed to a gliss where no tonguing takes place.

GM 15:25, 7 Feb 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Slur?

Is this the same thing as the slur known to stringed instruments? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.14.94.170 (talk) 07:45, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

No, not quite. Players of bowed stringss refer to a legato articulation taken without a change in bow direction as a slur. There is not neccesarily a slide in pitch involved. Sparafucil 01:00, 24 October 2007 (UTC)