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[edit] Names and definitions

Isn't Port Phillip Bay technically a gulf? Anyone know for sure? Hypernovean 12:53, 21 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Bayside, how did you decide that Port Phillip without Bay is the correct name? I've seen it referred to with Bay just as often as without, if not more. Remember that Port Phillip is also a Local Government Area. Hypernovean 12:00, 17 May 2004 (UTC)

It is a body of water that contains many bays - official charts of area call the body of water Port Phillip. You are correct that common usage uses the term bay but it is not correct.

I also am unsure about the definition of gulf - will do further research and let you know. bayside

I think it should be classified as a bay, as it gets called that so much, and Port Phillip without the bay on the end could be anything, even the name of someone.

I doubt there is any technical difference between a gulf and a bay. Port Phillip is always refered to locally as "the bay", which is why it is so often incorrectly named as Port Phillip Bay. Adam 11:48, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)

According to the Geographic Place Names Register of Victoria (at [1]), Port Phillip is an "Official Place Name", and Port Phillip Bay an "Official Alternative Place Name". Philip J. Rayment 16:41, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Updated link to VICNAMES here:[2]. Port Phillip Bay is clearly "alternative", not "incorrect". Lainagier 00:50, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

I have just done a minor tidy up... however despite what the Vic Place names book says about Port Phillip Bay being an alternative name I reckon it is no more correct than writing ' I Would of' instead of 'I Would have' FDrummondH (talk) 09:24, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Formed only 10,000 years ago?

As it states here: "Port Phillip was formed about 10,000 years ago at the end of the last Ice Age, when the sea-level rose to drown what was then the valley of the Yarra, which flowed down what is now the eastern side of the bay". If this is the case, why do we have such sandy beaches? I was under the impression that sand takes in the order of hundreds of thousands/millions of years to form? Is thousands enough? Diliff | (Talk) (Contribs) 09:30, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

I would think that the figure of 10,000 years indicates that the bay has been around since the last ice age when sea levels rose again. There has certainly been water in the Port Phillip basin before. I found a paper analyzing the sediments in the bay and it suggests that the sandy beaches were all deposited in the last 6,500 years and that the oldest marine sediments are at least 35,000 years old. Maybe someone who knows a bit about geography can point us to some good sources on this subject? --bainer (talk) 02:06, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
Much of the sand would have been around a lot longer than the last ice age. Sand really refers to a particular grain size of grated rock; big grains = gravel, tiny grains = clay, medium grains = sand. Wash the organic matter out of soil and you are left with grated rock. The south-eastern suburbs of Melbourne are built on sand. The beaches are just this sand, with the organic stuff washed out, piled up by the waves. The beaches are young; the sand is not. Maias 04:33, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] miles?

why are we using miles here, when australia only use kilometres?

[edit] depth

Why does it say the deepest part of the bay is only 24m? I was diving there today deeper than that... I would edit it but not sure how deep it is. At least 60m for sure though... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.168.69.232 (talk) 14:25, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

 -Ok well I found out the answer to my question. :] Port Phillip Heads is not considered part of Port Phillip Bay and it gets down to over 90m there but not inside the bay.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.168.18.160 (talk) 14:16, 14 June 2008 (UTC)