Talk:Pleasure principle (psychology)

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[edit] Pain or "Unpleasure"

after the word "pain" how about placing the word "unpleasure" in parenthesis. That is the word that Freud uses in Introductory Lectures and may be more accurate, as hunger is not really a pain. Sexual frustration too may not really be called "pain". I am referring to the Strachey translation published by Liveright p443

I think perhaps this article is a bit simplistic as it is now. In my understanding, Freud's pleasure principle is really the death drive. Pleasure is the cessation of pain, i.e. being hungry is painful and eating relieves that pain, so reduces excitation and sensation, the zero point of excitation and sensation being death, which all life seeks "by means alike, old and new", the complexity of life being merely elaborate means to return to an undifferentiated pre-living state . . . at least according to 'beyond the Pleasure Principle". --74.14.113.167 20:48, 22 September 2007 (UTC)--Betamod 20:49, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Title Change?

As much information as there is about the reality principle is a change of title in order? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.184.39.100 (talk) 23:26, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Rather, I think reality principle should be made its own article, and have done so. - Draeco (talk) 07:03, 29 February 2008 (UTC)