Talk:Plazas de soberanía

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[edit] Island

Doesn't Parsley Island belong here? RickK 02:23, 1 May 2004 (UTC)

It's considered included in the near city, not as an apart entity. -- Error 04:29, 2 May 2004 (UTC)

I believe the Island of Perejil should be included, as it has been of political importance to the relations between Spain and Morocco in the last years. Miguel

According to most Spanish scholars, Perejil is not an individual "plaza de soberanía", neither is it a part of Ceuta. Its statu quo continues, but its status is still unclear. --alfanje 03:11, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)

"plazas de soberania" don´t exist at the spanish territory since 1978

>>>antónio diz: the isle of alborán is not mentioned either, it should figure within the lot.

[edit] Plazas de Soberania vs Spanish North Africa

I note that the stub "Spanish North Africa" has been redirected to "Plazas de Soberania". I was the contributor who edited the Spanish North Africa stub to include the line that "Spanish North Africa" was an English phrase that referred to the same geographic entity as the Spanish phrase "Plazas de Soberania" (ie - it did not refer to the whole area of continental Africa that had at some stage been under Spanish administration but referred to those enclaves and islands that Spain considers inalienably Spanish). Just unsure if the two articles are actually one and the same however. "Plazas de Soberania" represents the Spanish position that these areas are an integeral part of Spain - a position that is contested by some Moroccans. "Spanish North Africa" refers to the same geographic entities but is neutral to the claims of sovereignty. While there is geographic convergence there still remains a conceptual divergence. I don't want to die in a ditch over this but just wanted to raise a query about whether consolidation under "Plazas de Soberania" can meet the test of neutrality.