Talk:Playmaker

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This article mentions players like Deco and Domazos but does not name players like Michel Platini, Michael Laudrup, Roberto Baggio, or Gheorghe Hagi. Please balance it as needed. --ChaChaFut 05:56, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Absolutely miserable article with too much detail on specific players/incidents some of which are arguably obscure and besides Hoddle, no mention of any great playmaker before about 1990, as noted above. The definition of playmaker attributes is too restrictive - excluding the likes of Andrea Pirlo for whom the ability to hold the ball up is more important than pace. Also, somebody here can't spell Hotspur! --JamesTheNumberless 17:29, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Well I've cut out most of the crap, attempted to fill the gaps and explain better while pushing for a more formal tone and amputating as much football journalism jargon as possible. The article still needs considerable work and I'm well aware my stuff also needs citations. --JamesTheNumberless 17:47, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Even better yet, the mention of Berkovic with what should be considered all-time greats ;). He was a good player, but if you consider him, there are more than hundred players over the last 20 years you could list, too. Ben, 06/14/2007

Can Lampard be considered as a playmaker??? Randy, 10/12/2007Wtf888 13:02, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Laudrup

How can Michael Laudrup not be a part of this list?????Hjorten 13:21, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Playmakers

IMHO, some people are confusing here Playmaker with "Goodplayer", e.g. Cristiano Ronaldo cannot be here: He played most of the time for himself.- Jor70 13:35, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] True playmakers

The most important job of a playmaker is to always be in the best position possible to receive a pass. He obviously has to be an exceptional reader of the game and a good passer.

Ronaldo, Kaka, Ronaldinho, Gerrard, Totti, Figo and Iniesta are not playmakers. Some of them might be in time but they're certainly not at the moment. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eirebhoy (talkcontribs) 20:30, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A Few Points

Hi, ive edited this page a few times recently taking out the 'playmakers in football history' part which i feel did not really enhance the article. In addition i have added a few more countries and playmakers from those countries- i think that the more examples of playmakers we have from different countries and from different eras the better the article will be. As regards the above point ie Totti and Kaka not being playmakers i think you will find that most football commentators would disagree. In addition, you do not need to be the greatest player of all time to be a playmaker eg Berkovic was not the world's greatest player but was still a playmaker.

Gingerdave

[edit] Famous Playmakers

I think there should be some justification given for a player's inclusion in the list of 'Famous Playmakers'.

Firstly, are the players famous? This should be sourced. It is not for us to say who is famous and who is not. Some of the players' individual articles are very short and without sources, such as Zimbabwe's Chunga - if he was famous, wouldn't he have a more in-depth article?

Secondly, are the players in question even playmakers? Again, references from a reputable source should be added to the article.

- Estesark (talk) 16:19, 14 June 2008 (UTC)