Talk:Piquet

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Further to my edit of 7 July... the article as it stands gives the impression of Piquet being a "period piece". The language is also rather outdated given "the very old book from which [the author is] quoting" (for example, "a guinea to the pool") and thus somewhat difficult to follow.

I play Piquet quite often, and have been considering editing this article to give a more straightforward account of the game. However, I don't think I can actually build upon the text already here, but would need to start virtually from scratch.

Hence this Talk entry: if there is an objection to my almost completely rewriting this article from a more modern perspective, please could that be mentioned here? Thanks. Loganberry 15:48, 8 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Please feel free to rewrite it. It's pretty bad as it stands. I'd say I'd do it myself, but it could be years before I get round to it. --Camembert 17:43, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Well, as you can see by the date above, I've not exactly been lightning-fast myself on that score. I do hope to get around to it before too much longer, though. Loganberry 23:32, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I just can't get something I'm happy with, so I'm not going to try for the moment. Anyone else like to hav a go? Loganberry (Talk) 01:22, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Copyrighted work

I'm not sure if it's in the public domain, but I found a reference to the 'dated language' from the following book:

The Gaming Table : Its Votaries and Victims : Vol. 2
Steinmetz, Andrew

Patterson Smith
Montclair, New Jersey
1969, 1870

You can find the reference via Google.

[edit] Carte Blanche

The section on Carte Blanche says: "Carte Blanche must be declared prior to exchanging cards. Only one player may declare Carte Blanche. The Elder hand exchanges their cards first, so they have the advantage here. The Younger hand must wait until the Elder exchanges their cards. If the Elder has not declared Carte Blanche, then the younger may."

Isn't this missing the point that it is impossible for both players to have carte blanche? There are only 20 non-court cards to go around! This whole paragraph seems unnecessary, but I'm hesitant just to delete it without first explaining myself. MarkC77 16:49, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

I wouldn't delete it. The sequence of play is still valid due to the order of the exchange. A clarification seems in order, though. Todd 08:53, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rules queries and corrections

I have updated and clarified some of the rules, particularly regarding scoring, in accordance with the rules as described in the books of Hubert Phillips and David Parlett. Two questions arise, which I am reluctant to change without first seeking a second opinion.

• Both of the above authors state that Younger may exchange any number of cards between zero and the remainder (up to seven, if Elder takes only one). The rules here state that Younger is restricted to between one and five. Is there a reference for this rule, other than in the vague excerpt cited in the article?
• Neither Phillips nor Parlett discounts the possibility of a "point of three", but these rules state that a player must have four cards in a suit to declare point. It is unlikely that both players will have their suits split 3/3/3/3 after the exchange, but it is possible. Again, is there a reference?

MarkC77 19:18, 15 April 2006 (UTC)